The first strike back against the overreach of JD and its 'software lock claim'???

[MossRoad]

Was he this guy?


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Steve

Pretty much! :laughing:

 

[crazyal]

I don't see this ruling having much of an effect on tractors. The printer company was trying to say that when you bought the printer you signed into a contract to buy supplies from the maker of the printer. The printer company couldn't show a valid reason why. With tractors Deere is saying that it's federal emission laws (one reason) and are doing this so they wont be liable if a tractor exceeds government levels because someone used a part that didn't conform. Secondly there has to be a market for non OEM parts. In the case of printers every one sold will need ink. That makes it viable to find a solution that'll tempt an owner to try it.

 

[CalG]

Bottom line

Do you want the "technology" that modern tractors/automobiles/ smart phones offer?

And are you willing to shoulder the responsibility of "keeping up"?

I bought a spendy computer interface to "talk" to my Audi vehicles. (VCDS) The cost has been paid back 100 fold. My comment is that "I'm just smart enough to own an Audi". ;-)

Can there be a J-D equal?

 

[aczlan]

I don't see this ruling having much of an effect on tractors. The printer company was trying to say that when you bought the printer you signed into a contract to buy supplies from the maker of the printer. The printer company couldn't show a valid reason why. With tractors Deere is saying that it's federal emission laws (one reason) and are doing this so they wont be liable if a tractor exceeds government levels because someone used a part that didn't conform. Secondly there has to be a market for non OEM parts. In the case of printers every one sold will need ink. That makes it viable to find a solution that'll tempt an owner to try it.

But, if the tractor has been modified using non-oem parts and no longer meets emissions, that would go back on the owner, the company who made the part and the shop who installed it, NOT Deere.
No different than you installing an aftermarket catiliatic converter or O2 sensor, if it no longer meets emissions, that goes back on you, the shop who installed it and the company who made it, not the company who made the car.

Aaron Z

 

[TemporaryKubotaOwnerMark]

Not so fast -- the lease versus purchase decision depends on the present value of the after-tax cash flows of the two alternatives. To say that leasing always has a higher value of those cash flows is incorrect.

All of which makes absolutely no sense except in the context of our insane and highly counter-productive tax code, which has nothing to do with the basics of economics.

 

[Wagtail]

All of which makes absolutely no sense except in the context of our insane and highly counter-productive tax code, which has nothing to do with the basics of economics.

Oh, this will be interesting... You're going to argue with Doctor Steve <smstonypoint>, a published Professor of Economics.

Have you ever wondered who the old bloke is in his avatar? :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Oh, this will be interesting... You're going to argue with Doctor Steve <smstonypoint>, a published Professor of Economics.

Have you ever wondered who the old bloke is in his avatar? :laughing:

I thought it was Angela Landsbury or Paul McCartney.

 

[Wagtail]

I thought it was Angela Landsbury or Paul McCartney.

:laughing::laughing: