The first strike back against the overreach of JD and its 'software lock claim'???

[Erik M]

I am very pleased that my '81 JD 1840 (2440 equiv) has no chips in it, just a simple mechanical tractor with a starter and some lights.

 

[N80]

I am very pleased that my '81 JD 1840 (2440 equiv) has no chips in it, just a simple mechanical tractor with a starter and some lights.

My tractor is a 2005. Other than some styling, an independent hydraulic PTO and some safety features it is pretty much like tractors that are 30 years old.

 

[smstonypoint]

My tractor is a 2005. Other than some styling, an independent hydraulic PTO and some safety features it is pretty much like tractors that are 30 years old.

I purchased my NH TN 55 in 2000 and my Kubota B2320 in 2014. To my knowledge, they have no computer components.

Here's an amazing set of facts.


"Twenty years ago, cars had, on average, one million lines of code. The General Motors 2010 Chevrolet Volt had about 10 million lines of code -- more than an F-35 fighter jet.

Today, an average car has more than 100 million lines of code. Automakers predict it won't be long before they have 200 million."

NYT via Car fact of the day - Marginal REVOLUTION

Steve

 

[MossRoad]

Well.... there's lines of code, then there's lines of code...

 

[smstonypoint]

Well.... there's lines of code, then there's lines of code...

:laughing:

My "programming" experience , for the most part, consists of using statistical/econometric packages, especially SAS. In 35 years or so of using SAS (as a graduate student and faculty member), I never wrote a program with more than 1,000 lines of SAS code. I don't have any idea of the number lines of code underlying the SAS package.

Steve

PS

An example of what passes for humor in statistical circles.

Q: What do you call a SAS programmer?
A: A PROCtologist.:rotfl:

 

[Wagtail]

Yep, programmes and technology is 'trickling down' to everything...

 

[TemporaryKubotaOwnerMark]

Yeah, we'll see how that works out for them. It's one thing for the big corporate farms to lease equipment, probably makes some economic sense.

Only because of the tax code which has been crafted to create business opportunities for the banking industry. Leasing makes ZERO economic sense for anyone otherwise.

 

[smstonypoint]

Only because of the tax code which has been crafted to create business opportunities for the banking industry. Leasing makes ZERO economic sense for anyone otherwise.

Not so fast -- the lease versus purchase decision depends on the present value of the after-tax cash flows of the two alternatives. To say that leasing always has a higher value of those cash flows is incorrect.

For the definitive treatment of the issue (), see my 2001 article -- http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/ers/AFR//2000s/2001/AFR-11-14-2001.pdf, pp. 199-207.

Steve

 

[MossRoad]

:laughing:

My "programming" experience , for the most part, consists of using statistical/econometric packages, especially SAS. In 35 years or so of using SAS (as a graduate student and faculty member), I never wrote a program with more than 1,000 lines of SAS code. I don't have any idea of the number lines of code underlying the SAS package.

Steve

PS

An example of what passes for humor in statistical circles.

Q: What do you call a SAS programmer?
A: A PROCtologist.:rotfl:

Hahaha nice! :laughing:

I did some machine language programming back in the 80's and 90's. Fun stuff.

In the early 90's my boss asked me and a co-worker to write a program for ad copy entry for our employer. The clerk/typist was supposed to enter the ad number, the ad copy, the run date of the ad, etc.... and hit SUBMIT to push it into the advertising system. So, we sat down and whipped something out in and afternoon. It worked perfectly. Unbeknownst to us, our boss also contracted with a local software developer to do the same thing. Boss had us attend a presentation where they rolled it out with pamphlets, cheat cards, training, etc.... fancy schmancy slick stuff. We looked at the code and it was 30 pages long. Next day boss had us install it and it was glitchy, but worked. It cost about $15,000. Then we showed him ours. It looked almost identical, same windows, prompts, etc.... and ours worked perfectly. Then we printed out our code..... 3/4 of ONE PAGE!!! 6 hours of work for two people. I think we were both making about $9 per hour, so $108. :laughing:

Boss made us use the one he bought.

 

[smstonypoint]

Boss made us use the one he bought.

Was he this guy?

Steve