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You might want to look at X10 wiring for the switch issue and small conduit concern. It talks over the wiring in your house and only needs one set of wires run to the box to use it. I used quite a bit of it for lighting in my house.
 
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Mike, we got 4 rafters out of that one. I am getting down to the end of the pile with 9 more to go....I don't think I have enough Hemlock and will be 3-4 rafters short. I will be getting with the logger today to see if he can find me a few more. Unfortunatly he is no longer logging the same property where these came from.
 
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X10 wiring? never heard of it...thanks I'll look into that.
 
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The X10 stuff is pretty good. I use the telephone transponder to remotely control lights and heat. With that Rick you can turn the light on in your dogs house.:) It isnt a substitute for wiring. Its basically a remote control system that uses power line carrier on the house wiring for the control circuit.

I got all mine from the provider below.

Smarthome - Home Automation, X10, Remote Control, Lighting, Wireless Security

Rats on the hemlock. I thought you would have more than enough.
 
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While X10 isn't a wiring substitute, it has "controllers" available which can control multiple lights and only need 1 piece of romex (or conduit with equivalent wiring) run to it. That would be a good option for the issue of several doorways with multiple switches. I have several of these and the x10 run thru the logs would be much simpler for him. As stated, the controller has to talk to another light switch or module located elsewhere with the regualr wiring supplied to it.
The other benefits like remote keychain control or computer interface, alarm system ties, etc. are a plus in my book.

On the subject of drilling logs, put a shingle nail in the floor where the wiring will come up thru for each outlet, switch, light, run to the second floor, etc. Use a long level to draw a pencil line up the logs from the nail, this will establish the point to drill. Drill far enough back in the log to be behind the deep box dimension. I did this up 2 stories and it works well. I'd advise to drill each course in case you miss one (I only did that once, and had an extension that saved the day for me)...It also helps insure you locate the screws or lags elsewhere. You can make a nail on wooden jig for routing electrical box outlines into the log later. A small router will get you the box outline profile, a decent forster bit and a chisel for cleanup will make box holes in 3-5 min each with a real clean look.
 
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The remote control aspect of the X-10 system is really nice. I can turn on heat in my well house from a cell phone anywhere in the US. I've been using them for over ten years and I have had only one module failure. (That was on a 240 volt high wattage control module for an electric heater.) They are constantly adding modules with more and more features. Its been a while since I've looked at them closely.

I have also been using a sensaphone alarm system for over ten years with no failure. Its a self monitored system tied into your phone line. It can monitor just about anything you can think of. I have mine programmed to call my cell phone first and then the house phone. It will call when the power goes out, when the temperature goes above or below preset values , when any doors or windows are breached, smoke, noise etc etc etc. It is CHEAP insurance.

Sensaphone 400 - Remote Monitoring and Control System - Smarthome

http://www.smarthome.com/audio/7005.wav
 
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Mike, we got 4 rafters out of that one. I am getting down to the end of the pile with 9 more to go....I don't think I have enough Hemlock and will be 3-4 rafters short. I will be getting with the logger today to see if he can find me a few more. Unfortunatly he is no longer logging the same property where these came from.

Rick,
So you need one more good size hemlock. Can you go ask the property owner for just one more tree?
hugs, Brandi
 
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Brandi I am working on a couple of more trees.

As far as the X10 wiring, am I missing something or does it not use the exact same wires as conventional? So X10 will give me no extra room at all in the conduit. Anway, I am not going to worry too much, if I can only activate 2 switches then so be it.
 
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To wire a light to be switched from more than one place requires a lot of extra wiring (14/2 to the first switch and then 14/3 to the light and each additional switch) and 2, 3, and 4 way switches. By looking at the x10 website it looks like a lot of the wiring would be eliminated, because the switch (controller) would only have to be powered and then the light powered and the controller tells the light to come on instead of a wire from the switch to the light and a wire from switch to switch. Clear as mud??? Wiring 2, 3, and 4 way switches is not one of my strong points. I always have to use a template on those.

Link:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...0&sigi=15e5m2unu&sigb=123niqmbj&fr=slv8-acern

Chris
 
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I don't have a clue what is code there, but here, if you are running conduit, you don't have to use romex. You can run individual wires sized accordingly to the amps. It will make getting what you need in there a whole lot easier, and might save you some money since you don't need as many wires. Less copper, means less money!!!

Eddie
 

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