gordon
Veteran Member
Let me try to be objective to some of your subjective comments.
Groundrule 1-I agree with
Groundrule 2-This is a joke right? You can't say in anyway shape or form that all of the top three are even close in price.
Groundrule 3- This is a joke right? A good dealer out weighs alot in a buying decision.
Groundrule 4- This is a joke right? What is comfortable for me being 5-8 might not be to someone 6-4. Also to each person control comfort is different.
So far as I see it we have one groundrule, groundrule number 1.
So lets continue. If you believe the marketing numbers from the builders then you need a wake up call. It's called marketing and the numbers game. If you want the true numbers you should pay for the reports. http://tractortestlab.unl.edu/ I do believe you will be surprized at the real numbers for each tractor. All tests preformed the same. Unlike the manufacturers razzle dazzle.
Number 1-2-4-see above
Number 3 can't comment haven't used all three
Number 5 mounting time with a bradco is about 5 min with a subframe mount. My friend has a 3410 and a bradco hoe This is fact.
Number 6 Should??? Isn't that subjective.
Number 7 JD sounds like the upper hand on this one
Number 8 JD sounds like the upper hand on this one
Number 9 This only would matter to a tall person.
Number 10 Springiest?? bounce down the road-hummmm
Number 11 Is the JD quick disc. the same as the skidsteer so any attachment can be used? If not this is helpfull but not the best thing since sliced bread. I would rather spend the 300 and have the ability to use any skidsteer attachment.
Number 12 Totally subjective comfortable for one is not for another
Number 13 Great if you want the mid I have no use for it as well as alot of others
Number 14 Expert opinion?? Yup an opinion everyone has one. What is a tractor expert. One who spends hours and hours operating each tractor. Does he do this. One who has been to school on tractors. Or does he do as alot of others go by the razzle dazzle of the sales literature. Or by the Nebraska tests? NO disrespect here To Mr. Chishti but with out knowing his credentials can we say he is an expert?
Ok after going over your post there is alot left out of the real deal. What comes standard on each tractor? As opposed to having to get options which add up in price.
If your going to have an objective test using numbers then you shouldn't use subjective numbers.
What about brake steering on all of these models? Mid pto is not useful to me but brake steering is. What about remotes on each tractor, Draft control, cabs and transmissions??? Guess what is important to one objectively isn't to another.
Not to beat you up Glenn, but to me your post wasn't very objective. So beat me up if you wish with your reply. I've been to handlin school I can handle it.
Gordon
Groundrule 1-I agree with
Groundrule 2-This is a joke right? You can't say in anyway shape or form that all of the top three are even close in price.
Groundrule 3- This is a joke right? A good dealer out weighs alot in a buying decision.
Groundrule 4- This is a joke right? What is comfortable for me being 5-8 might not be to someone 6-4. Also to each person control comfort is different.
So far as I see it we have one groundrule, groundrule number 1.
So lets continue. If you believe the marketing numbers from the builders then you need a wake up call. It's called marketing and the numbers game. If you want the true numbers you should pay for the reports. http://tractortestlab.unl.edu/ I do believe you will be surprized at the real numbers for each tractor. All tests preformed the same. Unlike the manufacturers razzle dazzle.
Number 1-2-4-see above
Number 3 can't comment haven't used all three
Number 5 mounting time with a bradco is about 5 min with a subframe mount. My friend has a 3410 and a bradco hoe This is fact.
Number 6 Should??? Isn't that subjective.
Number 7 JD sounds like the upper hand on this one
Number 8 JD sounds like the upper hand on this one
Number 9 This only would matter to a tall person.
Number 10 Springiest?? bounce down the road-hummmm
Number 11 Is the JD quick disc. the same as the skidsteer so any attachment can be used? If not this is helpfull but not the best thing since sliced bread. I would rather spend the 300 and have the ability to use any skidsteer attachment.
Number 12 Totally subjective comfortable for one is not for another
Number 13 Great if you want the mid I have no use for it as well as alot of others
Number 14 Expert opinion?? Yup an opinion everyone has one. What is a tractor expert. One who spends hours and hours operating each tractor. Does he do this. One who has been to school on tractors. Or does he do as alot of others go by the razzle dazzle of the sales literature. Or by the Nebraska tests? NO disrespect here To Mr. Chishti but with out knowing his credentials can we say he is an expert?
Ok after going over your post there is alot left out of the real deal. What comes standard on each tractor? As opposed to having to get options which add up in price.
If your going to have an objective test using numbers then you shouldn't use subjective numbers.
What about brake steering on all of these models? Mid pto is not useful to me but brake steering is. What about remotes on each tractor, Draft control, cabs and transmissions??? Guess what is important to one objectively isn't to another.
Not to beat you up Glenn, but to me your post wasn't very objective. So beat me up if you wish with your reply. I've been to handlin school I can handle it.
Gordon
