The reality of aluminum body panels.

[HHR]

The 2015 f150 has an improvement of 530 lbs payload over last year's model. It is now capable to haul 3300 lbs with the max payload option. I think the GM tops out around 2200 max so I may have been off by 100 lbs earlier.

Ford actually lowered the max GVW from 8200 in 2014 to 7850 for 2015. This only allows for a 180 pound increase in the maximum payload (3120 to 3300).

 

[Loadstar]

Will it fit in my garage? :laughing:

A lot of it depends on exhaust configurations but if it doesn't after that... It's time for a real garage anyways.

 

[jejeosborne]

Ford actually lowered the max GVW from 8200 in 2014 to 7850 for 2015. This only allows for a 180 pound increase in the maximum payload (3120 to 3300).

You are absolutely correct. Thanks for pointing that out. The early articles published didn't take this into account. The super cab increased 310 lbs, the Supercrew increased 290 lbs and as you said the regular increased 180 lbs. Here are some articles that quoted the 530 lb reference. The first one is actually a Ford publication which shows 530 lbs. Wow could you image if they kept the GVW at 8200 and had a 3650 lb payload. That would be crazy. I wonder why the GVW was reduced?

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/products/trucks/f-150/2015-f150/new-standard.pdf

2015 Ford F-150: 5 Things to Consider Before You Shop - AutoTrader.com

http://www.truckinginfo.com/article...-brings-more-performance-economy-payload.aspx

 

[wawajake]

Well the important thing it seems for some is that Ford fans like DP and your self can bash GM (and Ram) all you want and exagerrate anecdotal "evidence " but if anyone dares to look indepth at a Ford post and looks for factual comparisions of equivalent model to model manunfactured comparisions , whether on the track or on the weigh scales or by repair shops ....there is **** to pay by the negative exposure posts. .....yep level playing field .........NOT !

 

[Ford850]

My Freightliner FLD120 cab is. No magic or anything. As it turns out heavy trucks log exponentially more miles than pickups in worse conditions. I'm sure a pickup with aluminum may just in fact hold up and the body repair world will not be turned on it's head. My Freightliner has more payload capacity, better brakes, bigger turbo, a twin bed with a comforter, automatic right of way at a 4way stop, has more aluminum, more steel, more gears, more oil, body lines of a predator with a clenched jaw, a cup holder, sweet seats, and I can split the transmission. I recommend one if anyone is looking at trucks.

Boy, you got suckered. Just think of all the insurance money you'd be saving if it had a steel cab.

 

[jejeosborne]

Well the important thing it seems for some is that Ford fans like DP and your self can bash GM (and Ram) all you want and exagerrate anecdotal "evidence " but if anyone dares to look indepth at a Ford post and looks for factual comparisions of equivalent model to model manunfactured comparisions , whether on the track or on the weigh scales or by repair shops ....there is **** to pay by the negative exposure posts. .....yep level playing field .........NOT !

What anecdotal evidence did I exagerrate? This thread was started for one reason.... Negative exposure and no factual comparisons, your words.

 

[s219]

The 2015 f150 has an improvement of 530 lbs payload over last year's model. It is now capable to haul 3300 lbs with the max payload option. I think the GM tops out around 2200 max so I may have been off by 100 lbs earlier.

That 3300# is for a regular cab long bed V8 2015 model. The same 2014 model was rated for 3120#, so just a 180# increase from 2014 to 2015. Still better than nothing, but not a huge increase -- basically an extra small/medium person.

The numbers I was looking at were for crew cab models, so the weight of the cab/etc eats into the total and usually knocks payload down 500-600# or so. For those, there was an increases of about 300# from 2014 to 2015. That may indicate a benefit of aluminum if the extra weight of the crew cab is reduced.

Numbers are here:

2014: 2014 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

2015: 2015 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

 

[jejeosborne]

That 3300# is for a regular cab long bed V8 2015 model. The same 2014 model was rated for 3120#, so just a 180# increase from 2014 to 2015. Still better than nothing, but not a huge increase -- basically an extra small/medium person.

The numbers I was looking at were for crew cab models, so the weight of the cab/etc eats into the total and knocks payload down 500-600# or so. For those, there was an increases of about 300# from 2014 to 2015.

Numbers are here:

2014: 2014 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

2015: 2015 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

You are correct. I posted those numbers right after the post you quoted. The GVWR changed in 2015 by 350 lbs and caught everyone off guard. It obviously caught some internal folks at ford off guard as well as you can see in my first link. Had they kept the GVWR from 2014, the payload would have been 3650 which would be ridiculous.

 

[roadhunter]

Well the important thing it seems for some is that Ford fans like DP and your self can bash GM (and Ram) all you want and exagerrate anecdotal "evidence " but if anyone dares to look indepth at a Ford post and looks for factual comparisions of equivalent model to model manunfactured comparisions , whether on the track or on the weigh scales or by repair shops ....there is **** to pay by the negative exposure posts. .....yep level playing field .........NOT !

This ^^.

This was supposed to be about aluminum body panels and it turned into some paranoid Ford fan thinking this was an attack on his beloved blue oval. Clearly it was not. If he would do some research he would find that many manufacturers have used aluminum body panels in the past and faced the same issues. This is not a Ford issue.

In fact I was watching the super bowl and saw an ad for a little electric car that said used carbon fiber for the frame or body panes (I dont remember which). That sounds really expensive to repair. So who knows in 10 years aluminum might be the most popular material used and things like carbon fiber will be the new lighter body panel that costs more to repair.

 

[MossRoad]

You are correct. If you read his posts from other threads you would understand his agenda for this new thread in which he targeted Ford by quoting that article. Do a quick look at his history and it will all be clear. This topic has already been discussed in another thread and he is scratching for some type of dirt on the f150.

I know I'm correct. If you don't like his opinion, don't reply to his posts, and if you do reply to his posts, make sure you read what he posted before jumping down his throat. It makes you look just as one-sided as him.