The white smoke video (on startup)

tillboy2001 · Apr 28, 2005

I sort of lean towards something electronic as well (or at least something that can change how it responds that quickly). As you mentioned, since the problem goes away after shutting down and then immediately restarting, it would seem to indicate something is bad that can change that rapidly...and we all know how quickly electronic problems can come and go. Either electronic or something mechanical that can make sudden changes. I wish it had done it today. When I got home, my plan was to start it and get video of it doing it's thing. Then shutting down and restarting to show you how it stops smoking after the restart. The tractor is new - only 54 hours. Mechanic said engineer said they've seen this problem before and suggested this part he's going to replace. If I find out what it is and it's visible after install, I'll snap a photo of it. I won't be around when he comes unless he comes after 3:30pm tomorrow.

By the way, I love watching the video /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I love digital video cameras. Cool how the average joe can pretty much be a movie producer these days with a simple camera and computer. I used a Sony camcorder that records in Digital8 format. I have a firewire card in my PC that talks to the camcorder's firewire connection. I use Windows Movie Maker (free with Windows XP) to grab the video off the camera.

KennedyDiesel · Apr 29, 2005

I missed the temps, but saw reference to 70°f

One reason that it did not do it as long this last time could be ambient temps. If cold enough, it will likely run at an elevated idle speed for some time.

Most Powertech engines that I have seen started rev up when they start where yours just swallows it's tongue. It comes clean pretty uniformly so I wouldn't expect an injector. I'd be suspect of fuel quality, compression, and possibly fuel delivery/control system issues.

cmhyland · May 2, 2005

I looked at your video and White smoke usually
means coolant burning... Could be wrong, but I'd
have the dealer pressure test the cooling system
and see if you get lots of white smoke after that...
If they pressurize the system and there is a slight
head gasket leak it'll force the coolant into a cylinder
and smoke....

Reason it stops when hot is expansion...

I may be totally off base, just my two cents..

When I start my machine at -10... I get grey/black smoke... Unburned fuel is dark not white...

Regards,
Chris

txhawg · May 2, 2005

Any update on your problem? What did the dealer fix?

tillboy2001 · May 3, 2005

He finally made it out yesterday. I started it yesterday when i got home and it seemed to run and sound a little better, but I won't know until today and the next few days if it's fixed (because I need to let it sit overnight before I try it). I know he had it started yesterday, so today will be the first test. I'll try to see if I can find any evidence of where he was working to see what he replaced. I wasn't there when he did it.

rcrcomputing · May 5, 2005

Looks like a big cloud of white smoke at startup only. My new kioti does that. Should I be worried? I figured it might be normal. Am a first time owner.
I get about the same thing as in the video. Cloud of smoke at first, then 3 seconds later, it clears up and I'm ok. Note, the tractor does sound a bit rough at for a minute or two, but again, figured that was normal. It starts up right away each and every time!

tillboy2001 · May 5, 2005

Oh no...what you see in the video was when it was pretty much acting normal. So you're ok. When I took the video I was hoping it would continue as it normally did...but it stops after a few seconds. When it WAS acting up, it would literally blast out heavy white smoke for about 5 minutes. So again, you're ok. This video only shows a few seconds of what it was doing.

rcrcomputing · May 5, 2005

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Oh no...what you see in the video was when it was pretty much acting normal. So you're ok. When I took the video I was hoping it would continue as it normally did...but it stops after a few seconds. When it WAS acting up, it would literally blast out heavy white smoke for about 5 minutes. So again, you're ok. This video only shows a few seconds of what it was doing. )</font>

Great. This thread had me worried. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Thank You!

firtol88 · May 5, 2005

So did he fix it and if so what was it?

tillboy2001 · May 5, 2005

So far so good. It's been 2 days. I've started it in the evening after work and it's been fine. Basically does what it did in the video now...just a brief period of white smoke and then it clears. We'll see how it does today and through the weekend.