Thieves stole my neighbors Electrical Lines

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EddieWalker

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Some of you may remember a thread that I did a few years ago about a barn that I built from two storage containers. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/33401-my-container-barn.html

Then a few years ago, I sold it to the current owner. He and his wife lived in it for a few years, but have just finished building a new home at the other end of their land.

This morning he calls me and asks if I've seen anybody at the containber barn? Nope. He said that somebody took the electrical lines from the meter to the barn. This was kind of hard to believe since I put that line in there and know how heavy it is and how deep it was.

They parked their truck outside of his gate, but down the road a little ways. Then they came through the trees with a cable that they attached to the copper wire after cutting it from the meter. If I remember correctly, it had two lines of 000 Copper and one line of 00 Copper. The rolls were 500 feet long and I used pretty close to all of it.

They also cut the locks off the containers and broke off the lock on the door to the barn. He had all sorts of good stuff in there that we both figure a thief would want and would be allot easier to take then the wire buried in the ground. They didn't take anything, just the wire. It looks like their only reason to break into the barn was to cut the wire at the panel.

They drug the wire out of the conduit with the cable that was attached to the truck parked out on the road. The wire did allot of damage to the trees on it's way out to the road. They then dragged the wire a mile down the road, taking out several mail boxes, then then turned down a side road still causing all sorts of damage. 450 plus feet of wire that big is very heavy and as we've learned, quite destructive when dragged far enough!!!

He found where they stoped to roll up the wire and then drove off.

Replacement cost for that much copper is in the $3,000 range. Aluminum is $800. He's not a happy camper and of course, we're kind of freaked out here too. Luckily we live here full time, plus the wire to our home is aluminum. With the work he had done building his home and the subs that he had in there, plus he hires day labor all the time, it's anybodies guess who it might have been. We both think it's odd that somebody driving by would think that the meter 300 feet behind the gate would have copper wire going up the hill to a barn that is invisable to anybody until you get right to it.

Weird.

Eddie
 
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EddieWalker said:
Some of you may remember a thread that I did a few years ago about a barn that I built from two storage containers. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/33401-my-container-barn.html

Then a few years ago, I sold it to the current owner. He and his wife lived in it for a few years, but have just finished building a new home at the other end of their land.

This morning he calls me and asks if I've seen anybody at the containber barn? Nope. He said that somebody took the electrical lines from the meter to the barn. This was kind of hard to believe since I put that line in there and know how heavy it is and how deep it was.

They parked their truck outside of his gate, but down the road a little ways. Then they came through the trees with a cable that they attached to the copper wire after cutting it from the meter. If I remember correctly, it had two lines of 000 Copper and one line of 00 Copper. The rolls were 500 feet long and I used pretty close to all of it.

They also cut the locks off the containers and broke off the lock on the door to the barn. He had all sorts of good stuff in there that we both figure a thief would want and would be allot easier to take then the wire buried in the ground. They didn't take anything, just the wire. It looks like their only reason to break into the barn was to cut the wire at the panel.

They drug the wire out of the conduit with the cable that was attached to the truck parked out on the road. The wire did allot of damage to the trees on it's way out to the road. They then dragged the wire a mile down the road, taking out several mail boxes, then then turned down a side road still causing all sorts of damage. 450 plus feet of wire that big is very heavy and as we've learned, quite destructive when dragged far enough!!!

He found where they stoped to roll up the wire and then drove off.

Replacement cost for that much copper is in the $3,000 range. Aluminum is $800. He's not a happy camper and of course, we're kind of freaked out here too. Luckily we live here full time, plus the wire to our home is aluminum. With the work he had done building his home and the subs that he had in there, plus he hires day labor all the time, it's anybodies guess who it might have been. We both think it's odd that somebody driving by would think that the meter 300 feet behind the gate would have copper wire going up the hill to a barn that is invisable to anybody until you get right to it.

Weird.

Eddie

We had a rather large excavator stolen near here. The police officer is quoted in the paper as saying that it took a lot of skill to start it up, load it, and take off with it. What didn't get said was that the thief had to have a big lowboy trailer, a semi tractor to pull it, and a big set of nads. I think we have so many people laid off, we are beginning to see middle class thieves. I think with more educated theives, theft is going to be a lot more common. After all, there are a lot of highly productive people out there, very well trained and disicplined. If they have to turn to theft to survive, look out!!
 
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Eddie-
I think you're right about it being an inside job- Someone your neighbor hired decided on a bonus. It is such a shame. What is also sad is the thief is lucky if he got $500 for $3000 worth of wire. He definitely didn't plan on using it again after tearing it apart. I was once told by an electrian that if they needed to replace a line (that was installed in conduct/pvc piping) that they would pull out the old wire using a truck. Has anyone check out the local salvage yards? If that wire was found and confiscated by the police "as evidence" it would irritate the buyer and maybe slow down the thiefs. Or better yet the buyer would require positive ID like current driver license so they wouldn't get stuck with stolen goods.
-Ed
 
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That does seem like a lot of effort. Around here they're going for the wiring on farm irrigation systems. It's all above ground but still seems pretty gutsy to pull off. Do your neighbors have insurance to cover?
 
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Mornin Eddie,
Wow, thats hard to believe that someone would do that, but in todays world maybe not ! Im thinking along the same lines as Red, that sure seems like an inside job ! Somebody had to know it was copper, and how much of it was there ! I sure feel bad for your neighbor, no one likes to have any of their property stolen, hopefully insurance will help out !
 
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300UGUY said:
If they have to turn to theft to survive, look out!!

It is pure fantasy to dignify this kind of crime in any way. Nobody in our day becomes a thief to "survive." These perps did not sell this wire and buy baby food.

You shall not steel.

Period.

KB
 
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I didn't ask him if his insurance will cover the wire and replacing it or not. He was hoping that he could pull new wire through the conduit again, but from the damage that was done getting it out, he's not sure it's a wise idea.

The police said they'd check the local scrap yards, but they also said that there are scrap yards all over and in differnent counties, so it's just not possible for them to check them all. With all the wire the scrap yards get, it's not something that will likely stand out as unusual to the scrap yard, not that they care were it comes from anyway.

I also disagree that good people become thieves when they lose their jobs. There are always lots of jobs out there, it's just a matter of doing what's available. I've heard the one of the reasons for the unemployment rate being what it is, is from so many people going into business for themselves. That's what I did when I got frustrated with the Union and bored with the job I had.

Eddie
 
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That's what firearms are made for...

soundguy
 
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I'd be real leery of installing new copper in there right away, at least not without trying to figure out some additional precautions against theft. You always hear those stories about how the thieves break into your house again a few weeks later because they know you have an even better TV now etc.

Maybe set up a deer stand and then a short stub of copper hanging out at the meter end so it looks like a fresh run has been put in there ;)
 
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Yep, copper wire dosn't have serial numbers that can be reported stolen. It is like stealing gasoline, hard to positively identify. I agree, sounds like an inside job. that kind of plan takes intel.

Soundguy. Firearms still require a 24/7 operator to be effective:)

I have always liked the theory of automated sudden loud violent noises. The motion detector trips as they approach, and the propane cannon charges and fires, ratteling windows a quarter mile away, and stops their hearts for a couple of seconds. Or sets off a squib(blasting cap like device that sounds about like a shotgun shell/M-80 going off) hanging from a tree that leaves their ears ringing.

Not going to hurt anyone, but surely going to draw attention to the scene and make them wonder what else is waiting for them that they didnt see... At the very least, it may get the neighbors out looking around who will perhaps get a description of the truck hauling *** out of the area, hopefully not dragging some copper behind the vehicle...
 

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