Thinking about leaving Kubota

[Jstpssng]

It's not a cut and dried question, as some of you seem to make it. I remember when a major snowmobile dealer out of Minnesota was selling snowsleds from tractor trailers for thousands less than the dealer just up the road; yet those same dealers were required to warranty them. When you buy strictly on price, sometimes there's a reason why some can sell for less.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I don't even understand that statement about a dealer getting a fee if bought OUTSIDE their area.

And going to the back of the line makes no sense, because people that repair equipment always have stuff coming through the door and you will never have your stuff looked at. I know places like that. Friends and good customers get their stuff fixed, while other peoples stuff just sits there and usually, they just come and pick it up to take somewhere else.

 

[nards444]

I don't even understand that statement about a dealer getting a fee if bought OUTSIDE their area.

And going to the back of the line makes no sense, because people that repair equipment always have stuff coming through the door and you will never have your stuff looked at. I know places like that. Friends and good customers get their stuff fixed, while other peoples stuff just sits there and usually, they just come and pick it up to take somewhere else.

Its all about zones for that manufacture. Some manufactures market zones to dealers, as in we guarantee you sales from your zone or protect those zones. Ultimately what it does is it price protects, its a way for the manufacture to protect the price for themselves and the dealers, and keeps people from driving to save some money. Basically johnny cant run to another county or state to find a cheaper piece of equipment. So that dealer out of state knows if Johnny comes in and gives a killer deal and brings it back home they are going to get wrung up by the home station dealer for fee.

Frankly Im tired of the wholesaler/retailer concept its a huge raquet on many fronts. Between the internet and direct sales from factories you are already seeing that game being busted up. Personally I am getting to the point where I want the best price, during warranty its not my problem what the manufacture and dealer agree upon in terms.

 

[rScotty]

The best way I know of to avoid the whole new price rip & warranty racket is to buy good low hour used equipment from an individual. Social media is a good vehicle for doing that.
rScotty

 

[Industrial Toys]

In a way it's a good thing. Every JD dealer I go to will have the exact same price for parts. No need to waste time, saving a buck here or there. I can buy that same $3.00 bearing at any location for $65.00!

It's funny how expensive OEM filters are when a product is new and then drops when the aftermarket filters hit the market. Take every dime they can!

With the Internet, there should be more sites that give alternatives for parts like bearings. None of the big bearing manufacturers are going to step on the toes of JD by crossing JD part numbers to their bearings. Not to my knowledge anyway.

 

[mred2]

That's called 'racketeering', isn't it?


It is the manufacturer taking care of their dealers. If you were to spend the money to start a new business selling tractors and when you opened, you found that they have made the dealership across the street the same brand of tractor. How is this helping the brand. Nothing wrong with shopping around, but larger dealers have to have some protection in their area. It costs us more than $15000 a year to keep a mechanic trained to do warranty work. And we are required to train our salesman and our parts people as well. But we are large construction equipment, not CUTs.

 

[mred2]

The name brand lawnmowers being sold by the big box stores are a good example of the dealers don't want them. You get a better price from Lowe's on a mower that the local dealer may not be able to even buy. But some of the brands require the local dealer to do the warranty work, but not all. Lawnmower have a very low rates for warranty work and the labor is paid by what the brand thinks it should take.
If we go to buying all the small tractors from the internet, the dealers won't make enough money to stay in business. If I help support my local dealer(at a fair price), it help him and me in the long run. I buy the dealer, not the color.

 

[lilranch2001]

That explains it. My bad for assuming there was only one Dave's Tractor. Thanks.

I ASSumed it was the California dealer as well, wounder how he was so close, it always seemed farther :laughing:

 

[lilranch2001]

The name brand lawnmowers being sold by the big box stores are a good example of the dealers don't want them. You get a better price from Lowe's on a mower that the local dealer may not be able to even buy. But some of the brands require the local dealer to do the warranty work, but not all. Lawnmower have a very low rates for warranty work and the labor is paid by what the brand thinks it should take.
If we go to buying all the small tractors from the internet, the dealers won't make enough money to stay in business. If I help support my local dealer(at a fair price), it help him and me in the long run. I buy the dealer, not the color.

Big Box store mowers are generally a step or 5 down from tractor dealer models

 

[Diggin It]

but larger dealers have to have some protection in their area.

That's called 'racketeering', isn't it?