Buying Advice Thinking of l3560HST CAB tractor

[Ortimber]

Not exactly comparing apples, but I had a 3240 open station that was very under-powered when dealing with even a moderate hill. Going up to a 3560 but adding a cab might make for a very anemic tractor. I have to agree with others that you might really consider moving up to a higher hp machine. Yes, it costs more, but in the end you might save money by buying enough machine now. This is true in my case, I should've bought a bigger one the first time out. Lesson learned.

 

[jtb51b]

Not exactly comparing apples, but I had a 3240 open station that was very under-powered when dealing with even a moderate hill. Going up to a 3560 but adding a cab might make for a very anemic tractor. I have to agree with others that you might really consider moving up to a higher hp machine. Yes, it costs more, but in the end you might save money by buying enough machine now. This is true in my case, I should've bought a bigger one the first time out. Lesson learned.

You may be right. I wonder how well a larger tractor will fit thru my 8' door? I also wonder how well it will finish mow around the house in and out of trees? Will those larger heavier machines tear the lawn up? I looked at the 3560, its a 5' wide tractor- when you step up to even a 4060 now its 6' wide. Wouldnt that mean I would need use those extra 5hp to pull a larger mower? I think there are places for every size tractor and lots of people seem to believe bigger is better in every case. IT IS NOT! Sometimes you need a smaller machine, sometimes you need a larger one. It took me an honest 6 hours to mow everything I had to mow with the tractor, it was all overgrown. This was with my b2601 HST tractor and 5' equipment. I dont see how jumping to a 70 hp cab tractor and a batwing mower will help my situation, glad it helped for you guys but i dont think it will help me. I will be clearing a lot more overgrown area in the future and a cab tractor with more HP will be helpful I believe. I really DO NOT want to get to the size machine that requires me to use a larger mower- thats just not a good idea for my landscape. I believe a 60" mower is more than sufficient for my needs and thats why I have been looking for a tractor that has a cab and can handle those implements with no troubles. Maybe I need to look at something other than a Kubota? Maybe they do not offer enough HP in their tractors to make them useful? I have looked at a Kioti NX4510 and its a very fine machine but it is 66" wide, and puts me back into the same conundrum. Thanks for all the suggestions offered. At this point I believe I am just going to have to have a dealer bring the machine I chose out for a demo. I guess if they are not willing to do so then thats my answer on that machine.

Jason

 

[nybirdman]

I am kicking around trading my B2601 (like new<100 hrs) in on a new L3560HST CAB tractor with a loader. I just bought 31 acres, and will have a good bit more bush hogging to do than I had in the past. I already have a TON of 5' implements as well as some 4' stuff that can still be used by the old l225 at my folks place. I also have a Ford 3000 tractor that I could move as well as the larger tractor could take its place and use the light 6' stuff as well. How are these machines on power? I have no problem right now doing the same work with my B2601 it just is not a very comfortable work platform. Will the extra HP of the 3560 make up for the weight difference as well as running the AC? I will be mowing a good bit of grass (5' finish mower) maybe 3 acres as well as bush hogging about 10 acres total. I have a lot of land left to clear but I also have a JD350B track loader as well as a Bobcat 328 Mini ex so I wont have to beat up my tractor to do that. I have looked at an LS XR3135HC tractor and I liked it, and it was cheap but that worries me. I have an excellent relationship with a couple Kubota dealers and their equipment has never let me down. Whats the thoughts? Anyone have the 3560 CAB with an HST-plus trans that does what I do? Next question, what should I expect to pay? I have not even talked to a kubota dealer, may do that when I get back home next week.

Jason

Getting back to your original post;I think the L3560 HSTC would do all you need with-out a problem.A finish mower doesn't take a lot of power and a five ft.bush-hog on limited acres should not be a problem.
I own 100 acres and 44HP and six ft. implements are the max that I need.
I advised the L4060 because of the stronger loader;width wise they can be adjusted to the narrow position.

 

[jtb51b]

Getting back to your original post;I think the L3560 HSTC would do all you need with-out a problem.A finish mower doesn't take a lot of power and a five ft.bush-hog on limited acres should not be a problem.
I own 100 acres and 44HP and six ft. implements are the max that I need.
I advised the L4060 because of the stronger loader;width wise they can be adjusted to the narrow position.

Thank you for the reply. The dealer says the 4060 has a 6' bucket minimum and the narrowest tract width with R4 tires is 69 inches. The Sales Literature does NOT list the minimum tread with all tire option, only that there are several options. I agree completely with everyone who has said that more HP is never a bad thing, but if it requires a bigger chassis then we may have an issue. Maybe I need to take a tape to the closest dealer with a 4060 and measure it for myself- I have met tons of people who have trouble with a tape measure! I am not out of this, I will definitely be buying a cab tractor in the coming weeks I just need to figure out exactly what. Deere has a 39hp tractor that they "say" is 5' wide. There is not one available to look at in the southeast, and availability is questionable at best but it sure looked nice on paper!

Jason

 

[Fallon]

My L4060hstc with R4s is set with a 72" (6') track. It's been a while since I took a tape measurer to it, but the sidewalls might be an inch wider. I believe they can go a hair narrower. But as 6' is a good round number that matches impliments I had the dealer set them there. I'm happy as I should have clearance for chains on the rears if I ever need them (my old L3200 had non-adjustable rims & needed spacers if you wanted chains). Also the new machine feels way more stable with a 72" track over a 60" track, despite being a fair bit taller. Not sure if I'll ever go wider for more stability, but no way I'd go narrower, even if it makes me more manuveraable.

As far as power... my old L3200 had 2,500lbs moved by 32hp. It ran a 5' rotary well & my 7' flail well, if a bit slowly (same acres per hour on each mower though). The new L4060 is 5,000lbs and only 40hp, so worse power to weight ratio. I can really feel that lack of power on hills. I tried a L3560 & found it way underpowered. I'd like more power than my L4060 mostly for mowing & roading, but it's what was in the budget & does well.

The L3560 also only has the small loader. I have the medium loader on my L4060 & almost find it lacking. It lifts 1890lbs or so & could probably do it feeling stable with no 3pt ballast. My L3200 was rated to 1,200lbs & I probably went several hundred lbs over that. With excessive 3pt ballast the back end was barely touching the ground. Basically the smasll loader on the grand Ls is going to be disappointing, the medium loader is ok. To get the big loader you have to step up to the L4760, which only has more HP & slightly bigger tires than the L4060.

 

[jtb51b]

I am getting close to pulling the trigger on a new cab tractor. I looked at a 4060 at a dealer close by, and it was a bit wider than the 3560 for sure. I am still thinking that the 3560 will be sufficient tractor for my land. I have mowed everything I have, several times (from 73 hours to 93 hours now) and I dont feel the need for more power. The only place I find my 26hp lacking in HP is with road travel. My mother lives about 2 miles away, and its uphill a good bit coming home. I can surely tell a difference going that way, vs coming home. Not sure if the 3560 would be worse, or about the same speed wise but it would be a **** sight cooler! I have to go over and mow her place (couple acres) every few weeks and a to till when necessary. While the B2601 seems slow travelling there and back it actually takes me about the same time it takes to load, unload and drive the truck-- IF the trailer is already hooked up to the truck and not something else. I dont mind spending the extra cash for the 4060, I just think its going to be physically too large for the job-- and definitely too wide for the current implements.

Have yet to see one of the JD 3R series tractors with a cab in person. May be hens teeth scarce!

Thanks for all the advise, old home is sold (closing on the 18th) and I am almost done moving out of there so it wont be long now. As soon as I have everything large out of the basement there I WILL be buying a cab tractor- no doubt.

Jason

 

[Fallon]

All the Lxx60 Grand machines have the same frame & as a result are within a few hundred lbs of each other. They have different engines, front axles & tires.

R1 & R4 rims on the Grands have adjustable centers. You can make them narrower or skinnier as needed. My L4060 & R4s are 72" wide. I could go as skinny as 68" I think, or a a fair bit wider (guessing 80"). R1s can go narrower than R4s. I'm happy with my stability at 72" & woudnt want to go any skinnier unless there was no chance of working on slopes or ditches.

My L4060 is running out of oomph on hills roading, but we dont have oxygen here in Colorado, which hurts power. I'd like more power when mowing, but I run a really wide flail mower.

Test drive a machine at your dealer as close to your use or transport cases as possible.

 

[jtb51b]

I thought they were different frames all together! I also assumed the 4 cyl models would be different as well as much heavier. My issue is that I don't want to step up to 6' mowers and stuff. SO, unless I want my mower narrower than my tire track I need to pick the right tractor. Right now, I have a lot of 5' stuff, and it fits the terrain very well. I have driven the 3560, and a 6060. The 6060 seemed VERY much larger. MAybe it was all in my mind?

Jason

 

[Will_C]

There are 3 different frame sizes- the 3560 is the smallest, then the 4060/4760, and the largest- the 5060, 5460, and 6060.

Will

 

[jtb51b]

There are 3 different frame sizes- the 3560 is the smallest, then the 4060/4760, and the largest- the 5060, 5460, and 6060.

Will

Well dang. Thats what it seemed like to me, I just figured I must be wrong.

Jason