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Whirlpool is like those store-brand tractors that use multiple manufacturers but the same badging. Never really know what you're going to get.

I've had great luck with both Samsung and LG.
I'll second this.

I'm never buying anything with the name Jennair or Kitchenaid on it again. Last few products turned out to be Chinese made trash that was badged with their names. You couldn't even find the product on their websites when I went there to complain. I expected quality and didn't even get decent operations or durability.

If you go through an appliance store and open all of the doors you'll find a lot of "different" manufacturers with identical shelving/drawers/etc. Many brands made by the same outfit with little to distingush them beyond the badge. These so called American brands are all just licensed out to who ever can produce it them the cheapest and most profitable.

The brands to trust nowadays seem to be the ones like LG, Samsung, Bosch and a handful of others.

I remember when Dad brought home a chest freezer from the drugstore after the new owner closed the soda fountain. It was a small thing designed to hold 3 five gallon ice cream containers (chocolate, vanilla and strawberry) It was built in the '30's by Frigidaire and was belt driven and noisy. Mom always complained that #%^$!!! thing froze stuff so hard it took forever to thaw.

Yeah, those days are gone.
 
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Lol did something similar to a newer pile of junk home good after ordering and replacing a few parts continuously, except it involved a steel track skid loader, a 12 gauge shot gun, a 1/2 gallon of gas and four letter words. The destruction of my headache was worth every minute.
hahaha :) I feel your pain
 
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They don’t make anything here.

When the raw materials are mined from China, melted down & molded in China, then stamped out in China, it’s China xxxx ! Where the parts & components are assembled is really irrelevant. It all comes down to the quality of the materials…of course they have to be assembled properly, but testing & QC are things of the past and there are no QC books or chapters in China..
This lady sure doesn't have a Chinese accent.

 
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Did you know that GE got out of the appliance business several years ago? Certainly not the company or brand we grew up with.

GE Appliances was owned by General Electric until 2016, and it was previously known as GE Appliances & Lighting and GE Consumer & Industrial. Haier has the right to use the GE brand name until 2056. Haier owns approximately 90% of the consumers brand stuff now.
 
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My next victims of complete satisfying destruction will be a whirlpool branded stove/ oven that I had to disconnect the self clean and broiler feature to make it work again. It has more recently started to overcook and burn all baked goods, a whirlpool brand under cabinet microwave that the hinges are falling off, and a GE brand stove/oven at my cabin which everytime you turned the burners on you could hear it arcing in the dials, I've cleaned all contacts and replaced 4 new ones at over 30 a piece just waiting for them to fail again. All appliances are less than ten years old.
 
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Do not be fooled by residential companies the Freon r22 in your case was not banned. They just quit making it in this country because of buerocratic red tape going back to I believe 1994 and the Montreal protocol. It is extremely expensive to purchase but readily available. I purchased 4 30 pound jugs yesterday for $1600 each
Christ, for that price I'm glad I got a new AC.

I'm not a HVAC guy and I'm sure the stuff is expensive. One tech that came out said he had some but it was expensive.
 
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I would ck that statement on “made in USA”? It’s prob assembled here, but all of the parts are made in crapsville China inc. You might even want to ascertain where the raw materials originated?
No schtick, Sherlock. Do you honestly believe that any "Made in USA" items were completely made here, from the ore in the ground to the copper in the windings?
 
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This lady sure doesn't have a Chinese accent.

Thanks for the video.

Is there any way to determine where the “sheet metal” and all of the others parts were made? Assembled in USA doesn’t do me any justice if the compressor, computer boards and all the electronics were made in “shin-na”.

It’s still a pig no matter where the lipstick is applied!
 
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It’s not a tractor, but it’s more than worth mentioning.

I just had a 2020 almost brand new whirlpool fridge ice maker go bad…no more whirlpools ever again.

During my rant, l just learned that my 94 yr old uncle has a wedding gift that is still working. It’s a 72 yr old Sears & Roebuck Coldspot freezer that is still cranking out the cold temps. Can you believe it??? I’ve enclosed the ser & model #’s so you can look up the dates. It’s been plugged in the whole time, minus 3 move times…what a beast !!!
I replaced a functioning fridge a couple of summers ago because it was sucking down $30.00 of power a month. My appliance lady, knowing me, told me to not spend money on a new fridge because the variable speed compressors are always running, so no matter how much money you spend, in 10-12 years the thing will die. My new fridge really did save me $25-30 a month on power so has paid for itself.
 
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My next victims of complete satisfying destruction will be a whirlpool branded stove/ oven that I had to disconnect the self clean and broiler feature to make it work again. It has more recently started to overcook and burn all baked goods, a whirlpool brand under cabinet microwave that the hinges are falling off, and a GE brand stove/oven at my cabin which everytime you turned the burners on you could hear it arcing in the dials, I've cleaned all contacts and replaced 4 new ones at over 30 a piece just waiting for them to fail again. All appliances are less than ten years old.
That just plain sux !!!!
 
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I replaced a functioning fridge a couple of summers ago because it was sucking down $30.00 of power a month. My appliance lady, knowing me, told me to not spend money on a new fridge because the variable speed compressors are always running, so no matter how much money you spend, in 10-12 years the thing will die. My new fridge really did save me $25-30 a month on power so has paid for itself.
I now truly believe that a low end on-off, temp up/down refridge is the only way to go…they just all suck when it comes to true quality and longevity. If I’m going to get screwed, might as well be w a lower cost unit than a $2000+ one.

I wish we could find where these appliance execs live. When one of their notorious piece of xxxx craters at an early age, like to have it shipped and dropped off in their driveway !!!
 
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Before he died, he had 12 carpal tunnel syndrome operations from trying to torque out bad compressors. The last compressor he tried to take out he strained so hard he had a heart attack!
 
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Here are the units for me !! Can’t believe they ship them for free…scroll down to pricing…

if my wife bought these, we’d all know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried; my wife would be w him !

 
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Of the appliances I bought when I built my house 7 years ago, the Whirlpool washing machine, oven, and dishwasher have ALL broken. They’re built in America, not so far from me, and are supposed to be a success story, but they’re PATHETIC. I think they’re cutting all kinds of corners to pay their domestic workforce.
they may have been assembled in the USA ? but all the parts are brokered to the lowest bidder....Of course China is main ingredient but they are moving on to more profitable ventures like the NBA, solar panels, batteries, Apple, Microsoft etc. the list goes on.........much of these parts come from Mexico, Brazil and many more and ever increasing China financed manufacturing facilities with no environmental rules.Western civilizations have been dumbed down by corporate greed and the "hoaxy" global market controlled by China. "paying the workforce" to assemble components not made in the USA........I guess that might be a small part of the much larger issue here........selling out to globalism is the elephant in the room.

ad; have you checked out who owns the assembly plant ? China has bought off thousands of companies that work hand in hand with China. Lets not "pretend" anymore.
 
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The Whirlpool washing machine factory in Clyde, OH is the largest washing machine factory in the world. I'm pretty sure it's owned by Whirlpool. ;)
 
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After our fancy front loading digital washer and dryer died to to a power surge, I did a little research before replacing them. We bought a new Speed Queen set with manual controls. Still made 100% in the US (Wisconsin) and they weigh twice as much as comparable units made by other companies. Because all the gears and internals are steel, brass and bronze. The company says they have an average life of 25 years before needing repairs. We’ll see, but they have been trouble free for 6 years so far.
I just looked up Speed Queen and it's impressive. Next one will be a Speed Queen.

Any good refrigerators still made with real quality?
 
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The Whirlpool washing machine factory in Clyde, OH is the largest washing machine factory in the world. I'm pretty sure it's owned by Whirlpool. ;)
a manufacturing facility....or an assembly plant? Whirlpool is a corporation that puts its name on a product that they are satisfied to recycle on the cheap....I guess at least having US workers employed is better than no jobs, but a company of integrity with a reliable long lasting product manufactured locally? Accountability gets compromised without "pride." hence "one and done" and "sell another" is who they have become. Whirlpool USA, in name only.

my 54 year old Sears Coldspot is still keeping my beer ice cold on my back deck.....all factory USA made parts including the steel racks and outside steel casing.
 
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I now truly believe that a low end on-off, temp up/down refridge is the only way to go…they just all suck when it comes to true quality and longevity. If I’m going to get screwed, might as well be w a lower cost unit than a $2000+ one.

I wish we could find where these appliance execs live. When one of their notorious piece of xxxx craters at an early age, like to have it shipped and dropped off in their driveway !!!
It is my understanding that manufacturers are being forced by law to make these things more efficient. One does wonder if the production and trash costs are ever factored in? Likely not because if we began doing that we'd realize most of the green things are an energy and resource-wasting boondoggle.
 

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