This is my last post on TBN

[Snobdds]

Let it flow for awhile. Even the hottest debates die out once a horse is beat a few times.

Then someone in 20 years will find the thread and think, every problem in life has already been solved on tbn.

 

[dirttoys]

Should we also allow pornography? Or covid-19 but no pornography? Just wondering what the offended members are asking for.

You should certainly allow **** if I find it stimulating or interesting, but not if I don't

I appreciated the effort and time it takes to run a forum. But Muhammad, please consider, "the fact the motivated politicians and activists have a desired outcome for politicizing covid. That is very likely different than your users/customers who probably want to: a. find out if a online buddy is ok b. get real data on how effective the shots, treatments, or actual infections have been at preventing (or causing) serous problems for people."

Because some jackass politician (past or current) feels this is an election issue doesn't make it political.

I am clear about my beliefs, and quietly take my beating when I am overly vocal (and I try not to do it as a nuance).

The covid thread I saw shut down, could have just as easily been cancer, or a bad fall getting out of a machine, in that specific case I can say forum management was wrong.

That said, you do the work, you make the call, I would ask you to think about this one.

Best,

ed

 

[5030]

Then someone in 20 years will find the thread and think, every problem in life has already been solved on tbn.

I won't be here in 20 years to worry about it.

 

[square1]

If everyone that leaves a forum forever posts they're leaving forever, most forums would need a subforum for such posts.

Best wishes

 

[Torvy]

Should we also allow pornography? Or covid-19 but no pornography? Just wondering what the offended members are asking for.

Only if the pornography includes tractors.

 

[Jstpssng]

'Freedom of Speech' (or 'speach' as sometimes declared ) ... is strictly a restriction on the power of government - only - to prohibit speech. Appealing to Freedom of Speech anywhere else is a nonsense argument.

Why did you direct that at me? I said the same thing with different words.

 

[riptides]

The problem is not politics nor moderation of "offending" politics.

The problem is posters on this forum insulting others in posts.

Even this thread has insults directed to other members (some who are not even currently active on this forum).

What does that tell you?

 

[kenmbz]

There were a few people who just posted numbers or talked about their experience on here who got censored.
It just would be nice to have a warning for those that were not off the beaten path so they could take it elsewhere vs. just delete.
Hard to learn a lesson when things just disappear in the night.

We are guests here, so I understand the rules need to be followed, but this one came down without warning and we lost a few goo people due to them getting slammed without really knowing why.

We don't read the rules everyday, so a note saying there is a change would be quite useful.

For some posts I have seen them go off track quite a bit and if Muhammad let them go he could personally get dinged by the gov. So he does need to protect himself and TBN.

But this one just came out of nowhere and really threw us for a loop.

 

[tractortroof]

Why should it be different than any other private property? Whether an internet site or privately owned bar or store, the owner had the right to set his own rules, so long as they don’t spill over beyond his ownership. We have the right to patronize it or go someplace else... although when somebody like the OP does the latter it is a loss to the site.

It’s a public forum, and though it may be private property in a sense, there are other factors to consider. One being the authority of the individual within the realm of rights that are “without question”. No one has three right to compel or forbid speech anywhere, neither on private property or public. Neither does a store have the right to compel mask wearing or vaccines.

Muhammad et al, are overstepping their authority

 

[Fixastuff]

It’s a public forum, and though it may be private property in a sense, there are other factors to consider. One being the authority of the individual within the realm of rights that are “without question”. No one has three right to compel or forbid speech anywhere, neither on private property or public. Neither does a store have the right to compel mask wearing or vaccines.

Muhammad et al, are overstepping their authority

"I do what I want!!!"

 

[ovrszd]

Should we also allow pornography? Or covid-19 but no pornography? Just wondering what the offended members are asking for.

I am asking for open and equal authority.

Do you punish your child without explanation?

If I'm wrong, publicly punish me with open explanation. I'll accept it. And those observing will know where the fence is.

Everything is political. Everything. Including tractor brands.

 

[ovrszd]

Need to get the traffic up after everybody leaves because we don't allow covid-19 discussions.

Covid is not why James left.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

He hasn't left yet, I can still hear his tractor whining away... lol

SR

 

[ovrszd]

The problem is not politics nor moderation of "offending" politics.

The problem is posters on this forum insulting others in posts.

Even this thread has insults directed to other members (some who are not even currently active on this forum).

What does that tell you?

I agree.

I sometimes find myself contributing. But not without provocation. If it is deemed without provocation, punish me publicly and with explanation.

Sometimes selective pruning is used to disguise the offense. Then the responder looks guilty. And the thread is impossible to even follow.

 

[ovrszd]

He hasn't left yet, I can still hear his tractor whining away... lol

SR

Here's a perfect example of forum rule violation that will go unpunished because it aligns with the political stance of the Moderators and Administrator.

 

[Blue Mule]

This will be my last post on TBN. I post this so my friends here will know where I have gone, and that I am not dead. Not yet anyway.

I just cannot in good conscience live with the level of heavy handed and one sided moderation and the last straw was the rules change by Muhammad that Covid 19 threads would no longer be tolerated. I can't live with that level of censorship and "wokeness"

And yes I will NOT let the screen door hit me where the good Lord split me.

I am over on AR15.com a much more tolerant and diverse forum. See you over there.

I got my hand smacked here for speaking the truth, in very general terms, last week. So I understand. It's unfortunate, because all of the negative and difficult things we're enduring now ARE absolutely 100% politically driven, and yet we're told we can't speak politics, which means we can't speak about it at all. Such is life... the truth is silenced while the propaganda keeps getting louder.

Good luck to you in all your future plans. Keep on tractorin'

 

[riptides]

Here's a perfect example of forum rule violation that will go unpunished because it aligns with the political stance of the Moderators and Administrator.

You are bringing baggage into the discussion. If you separate the posting from the poster, it reads differently.

An issue with hanging out on a forum for a good long while is you build this persona of what you believe a poster to be.
Over time, we categorize and label posters in our thinking. The reality is quite different when one meets face to face.
Or NOT. LOL.

IMHO, no slight intended or implied.

He hasn't left yet, I can still hear his tractor whining away... lol

SR

 

[Bird]

Does anyone (besides me) sometimes wonder why human beings simply cannot get along together; never have and never will. From Biblical times throughout history, quarrels, fights, wars, etc. have always happened, and I'm sure always will happen.

 

[Fixastuff]

Here's a perfect example of forum rule violation that will go unpunished because it aligns with the political stance of the Moderators and Administrator.

You didn't come to my defence when it was said I'm naive with a big ego and implied I have a small *****.(it's ok it make me happy) lol

 

[riptides]

Does anyone (besides me) sometimes wonder why human beings simply cannot get along together; never have and never will. From Biblical times throughout history, quarrels, fights, wars, etc. have always happened, and I'm sure always will happen.

We can get along just fine. As long as we keep our mouths shut.