Three Point Control Range

RAllen · May 3, 2001

I know how to adjust the rate for 3-movement on my 2910 but it seems the range on my height control is out of whack. An attachment hardly moves until I get to the 4-5 of my control lever then jumps up. A box blade hits the ground at about the 5-6 range. I seem to remember better control all across the range when the 2910 was new.

Anyone know how to adjust this?

Rick

Bird · May 3, 2001

Rick, that's something I forget every time I'm by the dealer to ask them about. There is an adjustment on the position control feedback rod, and I adjusted mine by the manual and it still is not what it should be. I recall someone else posting similar messages. And I don't know how to describe the adjustment to you without pictures.

Bird

Billc · May 4, 2001

Maybe I'm way off here, but when I need to adjust the height of attachments I first set it by adjusting the top link.

When I'm picking up round bales I have the top link screwed all the way in. If I'm using something else it's let out some.

Hope this helps.

Bill Cook

RAllen · May 4, 2001

It makes no difference how I adjust the top link. In or completely out, I still do not have the adjustment range I had when new.

Rick

frank_f15 · May 4, 2001

rick, will try to help. when u are rasing the 3 pt. it will not start to raise till about the 5 or 6 range, this is the way my 2400 works. try setting the lowering speed knob to slower rate of desent. if u have it open to much the implement will lower faster than u want it to,so it looks like it is lowering sooner than u want it to.also i have found it prudent to move lever at a SLOW rate. give the hydraulics time to catch up. we somtimes expect too much/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird · May 4, 2001

Fellows, I'm not sure you're understanding Rick's (and my) complaint. The lever for raising and lowering the 3-point hitch is in a slot that is numbered from 1 to 8. However, since 4 is all the way down and 8 all the way up, the 1, 2, and 3 positions are worthless; because the hitch will be lowered all the way in any of those positions.

Bird

Harv · May 5, 2001

the hitch will be lowered all the way in any of those positions.

I had the same question about this, Bird, but when I asked my tractor guy about it, he explained that the implement will hit the ground much sooner than the full range of motion is reached by the lift arms. In other words, your box blade will touch down at position 4, your cutter might hover until 3 and only empty lift arms will respond to 2 or 1.

I never remember to check this out when the lift arms are empty 'cuz it's only like that for a couple of minutes when I'm switching from the box blade to the rotary cutter or vice-versa.

Can anybody verify this theory?

Bird · May 5, 2001

Harv, that's a very logical theory and it's partially true; however, with no implement, 3-point lowered all the way, and you start back on the lever, it won't start to raise until you get past "3".

Bird

Bill_in_MI · May 5, 2001

Bird and others,
If you do get input from your dealer on this, I would be interested in hearing what they say. I find this feature on my 2910 dissapointing. I find I have more control with the "simple" lever on my old (18 years) B7100 (which, by the way I had planned to sell but it would be like selling off a family member...soooo....I gave to my wife/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif) The only good thing I have found is that if I put the movable stop block on the upper side of the contol lever in the winter, I can prevent myself from knocking out my tail lights with the shute contol lever on my snowblower. Otherwise, I've kind of written this feature off as a good idea that lacks a bit in execution. If it can be "fixed" I would like to know.

Harv · May 5, 2001

it won't start to raise until you get past "3".

Rats!!! /w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif

Anonymous Poster · May 5, 2001

Rats!!!

Actually,... RAT had nothing to do with it Harv.../w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

GlueGuy · May 5, 2001

Dang! /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif Stole my thunder! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

The GlueGuy

RAllen · May 5, 2001

Bird and all
When My 2910 was delivered, the dealer had the Landpride Rotary Cutter attached. Due to my very rough and rocky land, the manager, who came out and gave me an orientation, used the limit control, you know the screw knob that limits your control range on the 3 point, at position 4 to keep the cutter from cutting too low.

I have to keep it on position 6 now. Position 4 puts the cutter on the groung.

Talked with the service manager and will be taking it in for a warranty adjustment.

Will let you guys know how well it gets adjusted.

Rick

Bird · May 5, 2001

Bill, actually mine works fine, and I like it; it's just that it has a range of 8 and only needs 4; the top 4. That just doesn't seem right to me; I'd like the full range so I could move the lever farther for small adjustments.

And Rick, I'll be watching to see what you dealer does or says.

Bird

hayden · May 5, 2001

I had to make an adjustment like this on my B2400. I haven't checked my 2910 to see if it needs adjusting.

Fortunately, the machanisms are the same and it's easy to adjust. The WSM describes an adjustment to ensure the lift reaches max height. I presume if it reaches max height with the control at position 8, then the lower setting all fall into place. If not you may have a different problem. Regardless, you might try this adjustment to see if it corrects the problem.

Here it is from the WSM:

1) Set the position control to the lowest position
2) Start the engine and set at idle
3) Set the position control to the uppermost setting
4) Move the lift arm to the upper end by hand and measure the free play
5) If the measurement is not within spec, adjust the free play by changing the position control feedback rod setting length.

Factory spec for free play is 0.2" to 0.4"

In step 4, with the 3PH lift fully raised, walk around to the back of the tractor and lift up on the lift arms by hand. You should be able to raise them approximately an additional 1/4" to 1/2". I suspect in your case you will find that you can lift it a couple of inches. This was the case on my B2400. If it's off, you'll find the feedback rod under the seat on the right side of the lift housing. It's a threaded rod with adjustable nuts that goes through an eye on one of the lift arms. You can losen the nuts and thread them forward and backwards to get the lift up to the specified height when the control is at it's max setting.

All in all, it's a pretty easy adjustment to make.

If your's has been sagging, you might find the nuts are not tight, or maybe it's just part of breaking in.

Hope this fixes it.

Peter

billboe · May 6, 2001

If your's has been sagging, you might find the nuts are not tight, or maybe it's just part of breaking in.

I'm pretty new to these discussion boards, but, just what is Peter talking about here???/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

Bill

Bird · May 6, 2001

Peter, that's the same as the adjustment on the B2710 which I did; mine was off less than a half inch to start with. Fine tuning the adjustment helped just a tiny bit, but not much.

Bird

hayden · May 6, 2001

Well, I gues you've got me stumped. I wonder just how precise the position control and numbers are? Maybe not very.

I'll be playing - ah working very hard - with mine tomorrow and I'll check out what it does. I've never payed attention to it on the 2910.

allmobile · May 6, 2001

I think you guys are forgetting that you are lifting the 3-pt arms 6-12 inches to attach them to your implement. That is where your 1-4 positions are.

Brian

Bird · May 6, 2001

Brian, you're absolutely right . . . er, that's what I'd have said if I didn't know better./w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif I just came in from re-checking mine again to see if it was still in adjustment, or could be adjusted better on the feedback rod. It's adjusted right, according to the manual. But with no implement on the 3-point, I can lower it all the way (end of the lower links much much lower than any implement hookup), then start back on the lever and nothing moves until I get to the number 4 position (well, maybe 3.98). I can then raise it to its full height at number 8, start back down, and it's almost to the bottom at 4. Going on to zero will let the outer ends of the lower arms move down another half inch or so.

Bird