Thumb for mini hoe

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KentT said:
Bob,

I think that amount of angle will work fine. Now, just weld up the cuts necessary to bend it... :)

It's looking good. How long is it? While you're "playing with measurements" see if you can make it adjustable so that at one position it will go completely inside the bucket, yet in another position it will mate up with the bucket teeth...

The thumb is 13 inches long. Maybe I can make two different backing arms. They should be pretty easy to make. Also the whole thing can slide on the minihoe boom, but it would be easier to change the backup arm. I will be welding up the cuts.

Why does it need to go inside the bucket? When does that help?
Keep the suggestion coming.

I got a new drill press for Christmas so I can drill large holes a lot easier, upto 1 inch. With that, the belt sander and the band saw I can do a lot better than before. Now if my welding would improve.
 
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bob, Here is a simple grapple thumb that someone put together.
 

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BobRip said:
... I got a new drill press for Christmas so I can drill large holes a lot easier, upto 1 inch. ...

I highly recommend the Milwaukee bi-metal hole saws for your new drill press. They are inexpensive and really do work.
 
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BobRip said:
Why does it need to go inside the bucket? When does that help?
Keep the suggestion coming.

If the thumb can go into the bucket, you can then use it to pick up/pull up thin vines, sprouts or briars. Works great for honeysuckle, sawbriers or blackberries for example. Just wait unit the ground is wet and soft, and you'll be able to pull them out by the roots. If you try grabbing something like that between the teeth of the bucket and the thumb, you'll just pinch them into pieces...
 
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Well I tried out the thumb today and worked great picking up short logs. Then I got out and noticed that there was a break in one of the welds where I had back filled the slot used to bend the thumb. I rewelded, but I want to add some reinforcement before I use it again. I will probably put some patches across the thin bending area. Another hour or two could do it. This unit seems a little complicated, but the abilty to adjust its position on the minihoe are and remove it from the minihoe are definite postives. I have attached a picture of it off the minihoe. It still needs cleaning and painting.
 

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MossRoad said:
I highly recommend the Milwaukee bi-metal hole saws for your new drill press. They are inexpensive and really do work.

Moss, when do you use a hole saw versus the drill bits? Are they easier to drill with on large holes? It's nice to have a drill press that will got down to 200 RPMs and has a one horsepower mower. That should work nicely with the hole saw.
 
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BobRip said:
Moss, when do you use a hole saw versus the drill bits? Are they easier to drill with on large holes? It's nice to have a drill press that will got down to 200 RPMs and has a one horsepower mower. That should work nicely with the hole saw.

This backhoe project is the first time I have used them. I tried 1" drill bits in my drill press. It was horrible. These things go through very well. I have a weeney drill press so your 1HP unit will spin them with ease. I have drilled over 20 holes with one bit and had no visible dulling of the blade. Very nice.

Here's a link to Milwaukee's info on them.
 
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BobRip said:
Well I tried out the thumb today and worked great picking up short logs. Then I got out and noticed that there was a break in one of the welds where I had back filled the slot used to bend the thumb. I rewelded, but I want to add some reinforcement before I use it again. I will probably put some patches across the thin bending area. Another hour or two could do it. This unit seems a little complicated, but the abilty to adjust its position on the minihoe are and remove it from the minihoe are definite postives. I have attached a picture of it off the minihoe. It still needs cleaning and painting.

Bob,

I like it -- it looks very versatile. I think you'll really like it, once you've reinforced it and used it more. You'll likely find yourself picking up all kinds of things with it... and coming up with new uses for it all the time.

For my needs the grapple bucket and the minihoe with thumb are the two most valuable/useful attachments, by far...

One suggestion -- you might want to consider pins that are shorter, with flush heads, (instead of those curved ones used in receivers) so that they provide less chance of catching on things. I've lost a couple of the clips on mine, working in the woods, so I now carry spares in my toolbox.
 
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KentT said:
Bob,

I like it -- it looks very versatile. I think you'll really like it, once you've reinforced it and used it more. You'll likely find yourself picking up all kinds of things with it... and coming up with new uses for it all the time.

For my needs the grapple bucket and the minihoe with thumb are the two most valuable/useful attachments, by far...

One suggestion -- you might want to consider pins that are shorter, with flush heads, (instead of those curved ones used in receivers) so that they provide less chance of catching on things. I've lost a couple of the clips on mine, working in the woods, so I now carry spares in my toolbox.

Where do you get the other pins? Sounds like Tractor Supply maybe.

I reinforced it this morning and moved about 30 logs around 24 inches in diameter and 2 feet long today. It worked great. It was easy to grasp a long either length wise or across the diameter. It never dropped a log. I am extremely pleased. KentT, I agree with you that this and the grappling bucket are excellent matches to the 422/425 capabilities and are most impressive when used.

After moving all of the logs no cracks in the welds. In the weak areas I put in some steel scraps that were one inch long by a little less than the width (say 7/8 inch) of the channel and they were about 5/8 of an inch thick. I welded these to the sides of the channels and up to the notch. I figure this must be at least 3 times stronger that it was before.

Thanks to everyone for their input. You know, I could probably design and built this all by myself, but I would probably have to make 3 or 4 totally different versions, waste a lot of materials and a lot of time. Here I have one working well with only a few modifications. My biggest problem seems to be that the parts would shift after welding. I would have everything lined up and then weld and it would not be lined up. Does anyone have suggesting to correct this. Maybe I should drill the holes after welding.

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MossRoad said:
This backhoe project is the first time I have used them. I tried 1" drill bits in my drill press. It was horrible. These things go through very well. I have a weeney drill press so your 1HP unit will spin them with ease. I have drilled over 20 holes with one bit and had no visible dulling of the blade. Very nice.


Here's a link to Milwaukee's info on them.

Moss, the trouble with drilling large holes with bits is that I generally have to use at least two and sometimes three different bits, working my way up the sizes. I think with the hole saw this would not be needed. Is this true? I will probably pick up some next week if you confirm this.
 

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