Tilt Meter

   / Tilt Meter #11  
I installed a standard Lev-O-Gage Clinonmeter (45-0-45) to my FEL upright post. It works, but as others have noted it is slow to respond to changing slopes in some circumstances. I rely on my "Pucker Meter :eek:"- it works much quicker than my Lev-O-Gage. If you roll it will happen a lot quicker than the inclinometer would respond. I still do look at the Lev-O-Gage for recalibration with the Pucker Meter :D. Jay
 
   / Tilt Meter #12  
Being an engineer (of sorts, don稚 tell the boss!) I naturally like numbers and gauges. So I've been thinking about this a lot. I have about 5 minutes of seat time in my tractor, and this spring will be heading out to some freakishly steep places (see attached pic taken when we were having a tree felled. I own what you can see, and more like it!). Since I want to come back with the tractor upright, undented, & underneath me, and since this is the most recent thread on the subject, here are a few of my thoughts vis-a-vis roll-over, tilt meters, etc:

1. We all know tilt meters aren't going to keep one from tipping over. In my inexperience, I've even wondered if glancing at the gauge could keep one from seeing that rock that flips you.

2. Naturally, when it comes to tip-over, the side-to side tilt is the most sensitive. But each tractor has a different critical angle (that could vary depending on the total gradient & orientation of the machine, & certainly varies with load and attachment configuration). So in addition to the gauge, I'd sure like knowing something about my tractor's weight distribution, CG and mass moment of inertia, as well as that of the attachments, just to give me some idea of what it takes. Wonder if NH has that info, and how I could get it!

3. Impulse would also be a factor when you're in a range that's still "safe" - i.e. hitting a rock or log or gopher hole, ditch etc. Reacting to this faster than humans could do - and correctly, I might add - would require the tractor equivalent of an air bag - either rapidly shifting counterweights or "kickstands" of some sort (perhaps with a wheel so the stand doesn't stick and pull you... mind you these are only thoughts...)

4. So a more complete rollover protection is probably impractical or very expensive, requiring electronics, instrumentation like accelerometers, and powerful stuff to shift weight quickly - you get the idea.

5. Thus the idea of a tilt meter as a cheap but reliable indiciator is a mixed bag to which I'm leaning on the positive side, having read the 2001 thread where Rick of R & B pointed out that in addition to safety, it's a really useful tool for grading, etc. Having reviewed his page, I think I'd like a few more ticks on the front-to back scale, as one is supposed to approach slopes in that direction, no? And so naturally grade that way as well? (Inexperience strikes again)

But years have passed since the 2001 thread, so I'm looking for feedback for/against tilt meters from people who use tractors extensively on very non-horizontal land - don't tell me you don't want one because your land is flat as a pool table! As well, do Rick's meters respond better than the Lev-O-Guage? Maybe only Rick knows...here I am throwing his name around like I'm on a first name basis...:eek:

By the way, if you look at the pic... I'll still be mowing that grassy area behind the house by hand! :eek:

Thanks for reading a lengthy post,

Tom
 

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   / Tilt Meter #13  
Bought one 3 years ago and use it very little. Not that dependable.
As others mentioned--- too slow to warn me. Even at ultra slow speed.
Looks fashionable though. Good Luck with your decision. elad
 
   / Tilt Meter #14  
What do you mean by "Not that dependable"? Are you saying it's giving erroneous readings? Or that it doesn't react quickly enough for your needs, or what?

Of course, it's been a few years for me, but I did have one of Rick's tiltmeters for side to side and one for front to rear. As has been said, they won't keep you from turning over any more than a fuel gauge will keep you from running out of fuel, but they did provide information that I liked to have.
 
   / Tilt Meter #15  
I have one but I find that I don't feel comfortable when I approach 10 deg.
 

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   / Tilt Meter #16  
That's the exact same meter I have in my tractor. When my wife or son uses the tractor I tell them to stop when they get in the yellow area. I've run it with the ball buried past the 25 with no issues when mowing. I suppose it really depends on your tractor and how you have it setup.
 
   / Tilt Meter #17  
All my young life I drove big tractors in flat land. Now I have a small tractor in very hilly land. It could just be me, but I have the front and rear wheels on my 790 in their wide settings and the rears filled, and still I have been in a number of situations where I lowered the bucket and Box blade almost to the ground and got out of a situation in low range. Maybe it wasn't going to tip but it felt like it to me and unless I actually tip it over I don't know how to know when it will.
 
   / Tilt Meter #18  
I have the R&B tiltmeter mounted on the brush guard at the front of the B2400. It works great. I find I can look at it when the tractor starts to tilt without moving my eyes too much from watching where I'm going. I bought the original one to confirm that I was starting to "pucker" at approx 15 degrees. As I got to know my pasture I find that I only glance at occasionally these days but it's still nice to have as confirmation. When the tractor gets to 15 degrees, I'm starting to look for a way out of there. I really need to get another one for the L4740 because it handles differently on the slopes.

I found Rick at R&B very good to work with. When my first one fell off and I ran over it with the bush hog I mentioned it on a thread on this board. Completely unsolicited, he supplied a replacement under their lifetime warranty program. You don't get service like that many places anymore.
 
   / Tilt Meter #19  
Bird said:
What do you mean by "Not that dependable"? Are you saying it's giving erroneous readings? Or that it doesn't react quickly enough for your needs, or what?

Of course, it's been a few years for me, but I did have one of Rick's tiltmeters for side to side and one for front to rear. As has been said, they won't keep you from turning over any more than a fuel gauge will keep you from running out of fuel, but they did provide information that I liked to have.

How would I know if the reading was erroneous or not. By the time I decide
I could be splatter matter. I just couldn't put much faith in it. Maybe my
76 years make me over cautious. If they are dependable for some people;
then go for it and GOD bless them. elad
 
   / Tilt Meter #20  
I mow the levy banks around our city lengthways , they are between 35 and 40 degrees . I must use 4 wheel drive to keep the front end steering up hill and find i have a sore back from sitting side saddle all day . A simple strip of steel around 1"X 1/8" and 6" long with a point on the bottom end , painted red and hanging loosely on a bolt at its top and a scale at the bottom is all you need . Attach it to the loader frame or some place you can see it , it will react immediately to changes and you will soon learn what is safe , most cranes have them on the jib .
 
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