Time for a new portable generator

grsthegreat

Super Star Member
Joined
Jan 26, 2011
Messages
11,029
Location
north idaho
Tractor
Kioti DK45SE hst cab
everyone here has their own transformer. mine sits in my front yard by the 400 amp service main.
 

LittleBill21

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2015
Messages
1,472
Location
PA
Tractor
Mahindra Max 26XL, White
everyone here has their own transformer. mine sits in my front yard by the 400 amp service main.
guess its a distance thing, makes sense now that i think about it. most of our neighbors are pretty close.
 

fried1765

Super Star Member
Joined
Jan 6, 2015
Messages
10,206
Tractor
Kubota L48 TLB, Ford 1920 FEL, 8N Ford, Gravely 12 HP "Professional", 48" SCAG Liberty
i had one customer , a few years back, that used his portable gen with a suicide cord WITHOUT A MANUAL INTERLOCK... did it for years without any issues.

i got involved as i sold him and installed a new auto start backup generator. reason he bought it was because he forgot to unplug generator, and forgot to shut off main breaker, when power came back up. blew the generator to pieces.
I do the connection manually, without any sort of interlock.
I have an identical checklist attached to both the generator, and the service entrance box.
I am the ONLY person to use the generator!
I spent my entire working life using checklists, and in 30,000 hours never once landed gear up!
 

buckeyefarmer

Super Star Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2005
Messages
18,290
Location
MD
Tractor
Kubota L3940 L5030 MF205-4
You can always find a CO2/propane sensor at an RV online store.

Those on an RV have a 7-year shelf life if I remember correctly. There will be a label on the back to verify that. IF you have one, look on the back to see if it has expired. You can also test it by triggering a bbq or cig lighter. Light it up, blow it out but continue to depress the button.

Also, they tend to get gummed up if there are aerosol cans being used in the area. PAM spray, hair spray etc. will set them off but also degrade them faster.
Be safe everyone.

Just replaced mine in the rv. Trouble is the new one i ordered online is already 3-4 yrs old. 🤬
 

Root Cause

Platinum Member
Joined
Jun 28, 2021
Messages
680
Location
North Carolina mountains
Tractor
Mahindra 2638
Just replaced mine in the rv. Trouble is the new one i ordered online is already 3-4 yrs old. 🤬
I know returns are a pain and sometimes can't be done but I would complain about it being 50% used up. At the least, they should let you keep it and return the full amount. That sucks. I can almost guess where it was bought.

That said, you have a functioning, life-saving device and that is priceless.
 

LittleBill21

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2015
Messages
1,472
Location
PA
Tractor
Mahindra Max 26XL, White
just tested the 21 year old propane detector in the rv, went off with no trouble. good to go i guess
 

newbury

Super Star Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2009
Messages
11,918
Location
From Vt, in Va, retiring to MS
Tractor
Kubota's - B7610, M4700

Root Cause

Platinum Member
Joined
Jun 28, 2021
Messages
680
Location
North Carolina mountains
Tractor
Mahindra 2638
just tested the 21 year old propane detector in the rv, went off with no trouble. good to go i guess
Just to recap, professionals and manufacturers both recommend that life-saving propane and CO2 detectors be replaced every 7 years. This is your RV and your life but for others reading this, I think it is worth restating that anyone's life is worth $50 bucks. I am off-topic here but the message is important. smoke alarms also have a shelf life of 10 years and RV smoke alarms are different than home detectors. They are much different in price but they are specific for vibrations. Good luck and I hope it works out for you.
 

rontaki

Bronze Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2021
Messages
77
Location
Just above the South Yuba River
Tractor
none
Fortunately for me, I'm the only one at my house who knows how to hook the suicide cord up and all that, much less the only one who would even try to do it.

As I mentioned in my wordy post, my house connects to the utility power via a set of cartridge fuses in a "pull-panel" if that makes sense.
So I have a very good reminder to disconnect the genny before reconnecting to the mains. Also, two electricians flaked when I wanted them to modernize the main electical panel and add an interlock, proper connector for the generator, etc. Since what I have works and has a fair margin of safety, I'm saving that money up for a tractor!
 

RalphVa

Super Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2003
Messages
7,587
Location
Charlottesville, VA, USA
Tractor
JD 2025R, previously Gravely 5650 & JD 4010 & JD 1025R
So it is time for a new portable generator. Wife wants one for her barn. It has a separate well and its own electical panel. Electrician will be out this month to install the proper transfer switch and 30 amp plug in.

I currently have a 6500 watt running (8500 watt surge) portable that I will be "donating" to the barn for use there. She can then have water and lights if the power is out.

For the house I want to get an inverter generator, but I need the 220v and wattage to run the well, fridge and some lights. I am willing to do load management to not run all the things at the same time. I want the inverter so I can run the router for internet and a TV while the power is out.

The house already has a transfer switch and a 30 amp plug.

I am not interested in Harbor Freight junk.

One that has caught my eye is Champion 100520 - 7000 Watt Digital Hybrid Open-Frame Electric Start Inverter Generator w/ Quiet Technology CARB

Also looking for other options. That generator would just about max out the 30 amp plug at 220v so don't really need more power. Looking for good reliability.

Generally it appears we are having about 2 power outages a year lasting about 20 hours each. Electric start is a must have for me as the Mrs. is not going to be able to pull start something that big..... heck I would struggle with it given my back.

Thanks for the input as always.
That size is probably about right to run the well without having to turn everything else off to start it. Once had a portable 4500 watt generator. Ran the refrig (2) and freezers (2) in the house plus computer and lights but had to keep the well pump off. Turned everything off when we ran the pressure down in the holding tank.

This morning, we're on whole house generator with the 12.5 kw Isuzu diesel generator driver. It has 4 circuits on load management. Everything on but 4 ton heat pump, swimming pool, one of the electric water heaters (have 2 in series) and stove top and carriage house. Got the Fujitsu split units running here in the basement. The clothes drier is on load management.
 
  
  • Thread Starter
#114  
OP
T

TheMan419

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
2,299
Location
Indiana
Tractor
New Holland Boomer 24
That size is probably about right to run the well without having to turn everything else off to start it. Once had a portable 4500 watt generator. Ran the refrig (2) and freezers (2) in the house plus computer and lights but had to keep the well pump off. Turned everything off when we ran the pressure down in the holding tank.

This morning, we're on whole house generator with the 12.5 kw Isuzu diesel generator driver. It has 4 circuits on load management. Everything on but 4 ton heat pump, swimming pool, one of the electric water heaters (have 2 in series) and stove top and carriage house. Got the Fujitsu split units running here in the basement. The clothes drier is on load management.
Yes as I sit here thinking that power would also be enough to run the window unti air con in the bedroom if I did not run the water at the same time. Having that capacity would also be nice during these sweltering summer days/nights we have been having.
 
 
Top