RjCorazza
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That is so true. The end result of their work is to require a product to spill fuel, and be immediately modified by the consumer.
Tired of CARB/EPA fuel cans?
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That is so true. The end result of their work is to require a product to spill fuel, and be immediately modified by the consumer.
elbowroom
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I think I missed the section in the Constitution that related to spillage and fugitive hydrocarbon vapors from personal fuel containers.
Typical government regulation without understanding counter balances. I've never spilled so much gas as I've had with these POS cans.
Entertaining and frustrating thread.
Typical government regulation without understanding counter balances. I've never spilled so much gas as I've had with these POS cans.
Entertaining and frustrating thread.
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The EPA has stuck their nose into marine fuel tanks now too. It's a darn complicated mess, and if anything I think they have made things worse. They no longer have passive venting. There are two types of tanks now:
1) Tanks that breath through a charcoal canister which traps hydrocarbons from escaping. Unfortunately this restricts breathing when fueling up the tank, making it very hard / slow to fuel up, and resulting in overfills and spills.
2) Tanks that allow a couple psi of pressure or vacuum before venting, to try and contain most of the daily temperature changes without constantly breathing. Unfortunately this is leading to more leaks. We had a 60 degree temperature drop in January followed by severe cold, and I ended up with fuel in my bilge because an aluminum fitting didn't adjust to temperature fast enough, and leaked under pressure.
So basically, to minimize venting of gas fumes, we've now got tanks that are creating more leaks and spills. Not sure how that is better. Many of these technologies came from cars, but they have none of the complicated installation/motion/attitude/storage issues of boats.
1) Tanks that breath through a charcoal canister which traps hydrocarbons from escaping. Unfortunately this restricts breathing when fueling up the tank, making it very hard / slow to fuel up, and resulting in overfills and spills.
2) Tanks that allow a couple psi of pressure or vacuum before venting, to try and contain most of the daily temperature changes without constantly breathing. Unfortunately this is leading to more leaks. We had a 60 degree temperature drop in January followed by severe cold, and I ended up with fuel in my bilge because an aluminum fitting didn't adjust to temperature fast enough, and leaked under pressure.
So basically, to minimize venting of gas fumes, we've now got tanks that are creating more leaks and spills. Not sure how that is better. Many of these technologies came from cars, but they have none of the complicated installation/motion/attitude/storage issues of boats.
So that's why the current gas cans don't have a vent on them? So that I have to hold 70 pounds of fuel upside down and watch the can collapse under vacuum them gurgle itself back to normal pressure then collapse again as it takes 5 minutes to empty this fuel?
They all used to have a little vent on them behind the handle and you could easily pour 10 gallons in half a minute.
They all used to have a little vent on them behind the handle and you could easily pour 10 gallons in half a minute.
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You can buy those little vent things with caps on Ebay... try " vent gas can " search... Step drill a hole and pop in place. [ did not mean to say a hole.... 
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aTexasYankee
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Fueling vehicles for over 20 years, I never started spilling gas until these POS no spill cans. I have since thrown out all no spill cans except for these
NO-SPILL INC. | Lenexa, KS 66215
They work quite well but are MUCH slower. You can get an extension for their vertical tanks and it actually works like the auto shut off at gas pumps where it'll stopped filling once it reaches nozzle.
NO-SPILL INC. | Lenexa, KS 66215
They work quite well but are MUCH slower. You can get an extension for their vertical tanks and it actually works like the auto shut off at gas pumps where it'll stopped filling once it reaches nozzle.
robbyr
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My dad used to use a 30 gallon barrel that had a hose and nozzle and quick connect. Pop an air hose on the quick connect, open valve for a little air pressure, and fill with nozzle. Pretty fast and didn't take much pressure to do it.
Deezl Smoke
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Ok, not wanting to be a party pooper or a negative nelly here, but I did not see where the barrel was mentioned it is fuel resistant or made for fuel, is it?
Just asking is all, not pointing fingers etc. But over the years, I have seen and had happen, non fuel containment, fail. And this especially goes for ethanol and bio diesel.
Just asking is all, not pointing fingers etc. But over the years, I have seen and had happen, non fuel containment, fail. And this especially goes for ethanol and bio diesel.