Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those

   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those
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#51  
Dropped the dealer an email with a link to the photos....he sent me back a note that said he would start looking into it.

I will keep all updated.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those
  • Thread Starter
#52  
Got a note back from the dealer yesterday...I will be getting new tires.

I outlined the timeline in more detail on my dealer review thread here:
My dealer experence (Kansas City area) Romans Outdoor Power A+

But in a nutshell to say I am happy with these guys is a huge understatement....If you live near Kansas City you really should check these guys out. Romans Outdoor.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #53  
Wow, that's great. Glad to hear they were so quick to fix the problem.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #54  
I wouldn't be so quick to praise the dealer. The tractor should not have left the dealer in the first place. Don't they do an inspection before sending it out? If they don't notice bad tires how do you know if they checked anything else? It's just like everything else in the world these days, good service is hard to find and the lazy young punk kid that was in charge of going thru the tractor checklist at time if sale just checked the boxes ad signed off on it.

Case in point, I do my own oil changes but have a company car that I take in. Brought it in had it serviced and the next day ran out if windshield fluid. Looked at my checklist that was handed to me and yep it was checked off as filled.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those
  • Thread Starter
#55  
I wouldn't be so quick to praise the dealer. The tractor should not have left the dealer in the first place. Don't they do an inspection before sending it out? If they don't notice bad tires how do you know if they checked anything else? It's just like everything else in the world these days, good service is hard to find and the lazy young punk kid that was in charge of going thru the tractor checklist at time if sale just checked the boxes ad signed off on it.

Case in point, I do my own oil changes but have a company car that I take in. Brought it in had it serviced and the next day ran out if windshield fluid. Looked at my checklist that was handed to me and yep it was checked off as filled.

I can see how it would be missed. Tires are really a non inspection item IMHO...like the thread said, round black hold air....what else is there to them. You take for granted that they are indeed "new". I have a copy of the checklist and IIRC it says nothing about tires other then are they full of air. I would look at this just like any other rubber part on the machine. If a hydraulic line had failed I would not chastise some "lazy young punk kid" for not checking every rubber line.

As to your case in point....saying that your washer fluid was filled is very different when it was not...that is pure lazy....on the sheet it says that the oil level was checked....I did check it myself at home...if it was 2 quarts low I would be pretty unhappy about it...unless there was a huge leak on my shop floor. Saying you do something (like filling the washer jug) is very different then not inspecting the tractor tires other then to make sure they had air in them.

No I think you are wrong. Problems are a part of life and things are going to get missed, we are all people and we all miss something from time to time. Nothing lazy was done here, nothing malicious, just an over looked part on a machine with 1000's of parts. The simple act of taking care of it so quickly is what is amazing and I will praise the dealer.

I worked at GM for 10 years, then in law enforcement for 10 years so far. I see all kinds of folks. At GM I was present at an arbitration or two. And was called in to some problems at a regional level. Some of the problems so simple in nature that one side or the other dug their heals in and was determined to find fault. That is not what it is all about....finding the solution that is acceptable to both parties is what we all want.....but there are customers....and dealers...that just want to pin the blame on someone...so that is their sole objective....in that case no one is happy...when asking someone what they want and they say to get their car fixed...that you can work with, but if someone says in not so many words...to make them pay....well we are going to have a long bumpy road and at the end no one will be happy.

Yes you do your own work, but have you ever forgotten....something...from taking that last quart jug out of the engine bay, leaving a screw driver in a door, leaving finger prints on the hood....we all miss stuff, nothing to get torqued about or start name calling. Get the issue fixed and move on your way...it is how people deal with those issues that define the customer or the business. Good ones that do their best to take care of the issue, and bad ones that look for blame, think they have been slighted, and now want their pound of flesh...it is owed to them. A real problem in our society today....and why the lawyers just love it.

Old Japanese proverb....don't fix blame fix problem.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #56  
Thanks for the update, Cherokee140.

It is good to see a happy ending, and the Dealer instantly recognize UV tire cracking & fixing it. Makes TBN'rs happy! :thumbsup::)
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #57  
Nobody is perfect and yes I have made plenty of mistakes and missed things in my life. A checklist is put together to minimize or eliminate missing things. I've worked in manufacturing as well and we tried to error proof what we could. Checklists require discipline. You look at the item on the checklist, you complete it, then mark it off. Simple, just takes discipline. No excuses. If we just accept things all the time nothing will get improved.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #58  
I wouldn't be so quick to praise the dealer. The tractor should not have left the dealer in the first place. Don't they do an inspection before sending it out? If they don't notice bad tires how do you know if they checked anything else? It's just like everything else in the world these days, good service is hard to find and the lazy young punk kid that was in charge of going thru the tractor checklist at time if sale just checked the boxes ad signed off on it.

Case in point, I do my own oil changes but have a company car that I take in. Brought it in had it serviced and the next day ran out if windshield fluid. Looked at my checklist that was handed to me and yep it was checked off as filled.

Man, I guess some folks are never happy.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #59  
I can see how it would be missed. Tires are really a non inspection item IMHO...like the thread said, round black hold air....what else is there to them. You take for granted that they are indeed "new". I have a copy of the checklist and IIRC it says nothing about tires other then are they full of air. I would look at this just like any other rubber part on the machine. If a hydraulic line had failed I would not chastise some "lazy young punk kid" for not checking every rubber line.

As to your case in point....saying that your washer fluid was filled is very different when it was not...that is pure lazy....on the sheet it says that the oil level was checked....I did check it myself at home...if it was 2 quarts low I would be pretty unhappy about it...unless there was a huge leak on my shop floor. Saying you do something (like filling the washer jug) is very different then not inspecting the tractor tires other then to make sure they had air in them.

No I think you are wrong. Problems are a part of life and things are going to get missed, we are all people and we all miss something from time to time. Nothing lazy was done here, nothing malicious, just an over looked part on a machine with 1000's of parts. The simple act of taking care of it so quickly is what is amazing and I will praise the dealer.

I worked at GM for 10 years, then in law enforcement for 10 years so far. I see all kinds of folks. At GM I was present at an arbitration or two. And was called in to some problems at a regional level. Some of the problems so simple in nature that one side or the other dug their heals in and was determined to find fault. That is not what it is all about....finding the solution that is acceptable to both parties is what we all want.....but there are customers....and dealers...that just want to pin the blame on someone...so that is their sole objective....in that case no one is happy...when asking someone what they want and they say to get their car fixed...that you can work with, but if someone says in not so many words...to make them pay....well we are going to have a long bumpy road and at the end no one will be happy.

Yes you do your own work, but have you ever forgotten....something...from taking that last quart jug out of the engine bay, leaving a screw driver in a door, leaving finger prints on the hood....we all miss stuff, nothing to get torqued about or start name calling. Get the issue fixed and move on your way...it is how people deal with those issues that define the customer or the business. Good ones that do their best to take care of the issue, and bad ones that look for blame, think they have been slighted, and now want their pound of flesh...it is owed to them. A real problem in our society today....and why the lawyers just love it.

Old Japanese proverb....don't fix blame fix problem.


I've done a lot of GM arbitration cases and most just want the problem fixed with confidence.

The part about digging in your heels is very relevant.

Concern was raised and a solution offered... sounds like a plan.
 
   / Tires...black, round, hold air...so how can you have a question about those #60  
I would have no problem with a dealer that when presented with a complaint, says no problem lets get it fixed, here are your new tires.. We are all human including dealers. Did the dealer get down and inspect the tire sidewalls for cracks?.. No, but why would he suspect that? The tires are new. But when shown they are defective, he took care of it without hassle or complaint. Good enough in my book.
 

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