TN - New Holland or Stoll loader?

   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #1  

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I am about to buy a new TN. One of the dealers I am shopping suggested a Stoll (German made) loader. It is considerably cheaper than the NH. Looking at the specs on their website it has a higher lift height, but has a lower breakout and lift capacity. Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.stoll-loader.com/
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #2  
Personal opinion and that is it. I am not a big fan of aftermarket products. There fine until there is trouble or something major happens. You got the two manufactures pointing fingers at each other and your standing in the middle. And unfortunately your dealer ends up in the middle also. Me, I would go with the New Holland.

Again this is just me.


murph
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #3  
Agreed on the New Holland loaders. After speaking with the engineer at www.Millerloader.com whom supplies most dealers with the ?32LA NH loaders for the TN series, I think you would be much better off with the NH brand. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif IH3444
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #4  
I agree with Murph 100% on aftermarket loaders.
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #5  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am about to buy a new TN. One of the dealers I am shopping suggested a Stoll (German made) loader. It is considerably cheaper than the NH. Looking at the specs on their website it has a higher lift height, but has a lower breakout and lift capacity. Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.stoll-loader.com/ )</font>

I think your aftermarket loader may actually hurt the value of your TN. If you ever go to sell it, it may make the tractor worth less because it's a non-OEM loader. If someone wanted to add a 32LA, they would have to take off the Stoll and it's mounting brackets and install the NH OEM stuff. They probably would not do that, they'd just not buy the tractor.

If the loader were a well known brand like Woods or Bush Hog, that would be far less a problem. When you figure what the price of the whole tractor is and the additional amount for the 32LA, the additional cost is nothing over the life of the tractor. You'll also have a first rate product that anyone can buy and take to any NH dealer anywhere and get service on that loader. That's value in my book.

So, to answer your question, I don't know anything about the Stoll loader and not knowing is why I think it would be a mistake to choose it over the 32LA. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Stoll is a very well recognized brand and I would not even put them in the same category as Woods and Bush Hog. Stoll is a high end company and produces loaders for most of the European market for the high hp tractors.

If you had to buy an aftermarket loader then Stoll is the way to go. I would still get the OEM loader though as it was designed for the tractor.

Did you ever notice that most European tractors with loaders have aftermarket loaders (with a lot being Stoll). I do wonder why the OEM's don't push their own loaders like they do here.
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #7  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Stoll is a very well recognized brand and I would not even put them in the same category as Woods and Bush Hog. Stoll is a high end company and produces loaders for most of the European market for the high hp tractors.

If you had to buy an aftermarket loader then Stoll is the way to go. I would still get the OEM loader though as it was designed for the tractor.

Did you ever notice that most European tractors with loaders have aftermarket loaders (with a lot being Stoll). I do wonder why the OEM's don't push their own loaders like they do here. )</font>

Robert, I didn't mean to imply the Stoll was not a well-made loader, just that it is not as well known as Woods or Bush Hog. Perhaps being a european brand they are known more on the east coast than here in middle America. As you indicated though, it's hard to beat the 32LA since it is manufactured by NH and serviced by all dealers.

I suspect that since most New Holland loaders are manufactured here in the U.S. that the additional costs associated with international sales, shipping, and tariffs might have something to do with availability in Europe. After all, if Stoll can sell their loader for less here in the U.S., then think how much lower their loaders would be in Europe.
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #8  
Quicke loaders are another high quality loader made in europe. I think it is Swedish, could be wrong on that though. The New Holland dealer I bought my TC48 from mated them up to the much larger NH ag tractors. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #9  
Clearly Stoll is not very well recognised universally. I am also in New York State, have been in and around the Ag machinery industry all my life, and this thread is the first I have heard of them. Might be the best loader available, but you couldn't prove it by me. I agree that a lesser known brand loader will hurt resale value. The buyer needs to consider whether that is an important factor or not.
 
   / TN - New Holland or Stoll loader? #10  
A co-worker of mine has a Stoll loader on his CaseIH Maxxum tractor. He likes it, but he hasn't had it a full year yet.

I only became aware of Stoll loaders in the last year or two. I saw one for the first time at a local fair a couple of months ago. It looked pretty good.
 

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