Toolbox and Lights for my JD4100

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Hi Terry,

<font color=blue>...I haven't had the chance to turn them on yet. Still working on the actual electrical connection.</font color=blue>

Well, my first thought is to just run your wire into the standard flasher/tail light housing, and pick up the wire that runs the tail lights. Then your lights would be on whenever the headlights are.

But this raises another possible safety issue that I am encountering. In my new 4300 manual, it clearly says that when the light switch is in the road position, all lights should be on except the rear work lights, so you don't blind or confuse cars coming up behind you. But, when JD installed the rear work light prior to delivery, they did it in such a way that my road position has this rear light on. When I called them, they put on the mechanic who told me that there simply wasn't any way he could see to do it like the manual specifies. He had only two attachment points, and the option he chose seemed the best. The other way would have had the work light flashing along with the warning flashers! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

What do you guys think? Is this really a safety issue? I just point the light downward a bit so it won't blind people. Or should I get on Deere's case and get them to wire this thing as the manual says it's supposed to work?

Thanks, and sorry if I got us a bit off-topic.

Bob

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   / Toolbox and Lights for my JD4100 #22  
<font color=blue>...I too think he'll need some shades when he turns those on. Maybe some blinders and sunscreen too.</font color=blue>

Well, one possibility if that happens is to just spin them around and let them become the rear work lights.

BTW, I just noticed that midway through this thread I graduated from "Bronze" member to "Silver" member! When is the party? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bob

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   / Toolbox and Lights for my JD4100 #23  
<font color=blue>Or should I get on Deere's case and get them to wire this thing as the manual says it's supposed to work?</font color=blue>

Bob,
I'd just cut into the wire going to the rear work light and mount a switch. That way you could turn it off when you didn't want it.

Hoss

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Everyone and in between /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

In my original post, I asked if anyone had attached any extra lights on a 4100. Wanted to see how they did it?

Bob brought up a valid point about attaching to the connectors provided. I tested the connectors with a Fluke meter and got power only when the headlights are turned on.

The 4100 only has a 20 amp alternator. Should have gotten the 35 when I bought it (good ol' hindsight /w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif). There are 4 fuses and there all being used. I hate just blilndly cutting and tapping into a hot line without understanding what might be affected. I want to be able to use the extra lights and future rear light independent of the headlights, if possible. More research here....

John Miller, you don't happen to have a 4100 wiring diagram handy, do you??

I'm using the mounting holes on the brush guards. JD engineered them, so they got to be good. /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif As far as getting sunburned or blinded, I'll sit on the ol' 4100 tonight and get a picture (as long as it's not raining!!). Picture is worth a thousand words.....

Terry
 
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Would a relay be advised to handle the 8.3 amps?


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Mike,

<font color=green>Would a relay be advised to handle the 8.3 amps?</font color=green> (appropriate choice of color /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif)

Talk to me!!! I understand the term relay, but what would it do for me?

Terry
 
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Mike,

<font color=green>Would a relay be advised to handle the 8.3 amps?</font color=green> - appropriate color /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Talk to me!! I basically understand what a relay is, but what would it do for me? How much work? I'll have 3 50 watt lights total when I'm done. Two forward trapozodial, one flood for the rear.

Terry

Terry
 
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<font color=blue>A = W / V
A = 150 / 12
A = 12.5 amps assuming they're all on at the same time.

A relay, as I learned right here on TBN, reduces the current the switch that turns the lights on and off has to handle. It's not a big deal to insert a relay, power comes in one side and goes out the other plus a ground.

Both sets of lights I purchased (2 floods to the rear and 2 driving lights to the front) came with relays. For the 2 floods, I used the existing work light connection which also powers my flashers. For the driving lights, I ran a wire directly to the battery since I did not want to overload an existing circuit.

Another item each set of lights had was an inline fuse. </font color=blue>




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Sorry for the double post - couldn't figure out what happened on that???? /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif Checked and the first didn't appear. I probably fat fingered something. /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

Mike,

Good info. I do not believe that the lights I purchased have built-in relays. When you say you tapped directly into the battery, is is directly off of the main battery cable? Sorry to be so dense and ****, but I want to make sure that I do the right thing.

And as far as an inline fuse, what type of fuse did you use?

Terry
 
   / Toolbox and Lights for my JD4100 #30  
Bob, I agree if that's the only way they operate then you might want to consider splicing in an on/off switch for your after dark highway adventures. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

On a 4100 if accessory lights are connected to the prewired plugs in the wiring harness located along the crossbar brace for the ROP's, they will be activated along with headlights/tailight when the switch is turned to position "C" and are off when the switch is moved to position "D". Flashers/Headlight/Tailight.

A - All Lights OFF

B - Warning Flasher Lights ON

C - Headlights and Taillights ON

D - Headlights, Taillights and Warning Flasher Lights ON

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According to the operator's manual on your tractor for "Road" travel your switch should be position "C" with flashers/headlights/tailights activated, and aux work lights should come on in the "D" position. Correct?

A - All lights off.

B - Warning flasher lights on.

C - Road Position: headlights, taillights, and warning flasher lights on.

D - Field Position: headlights, taillights, and optional working lights on.


Definitely wouldn't want to have those rear facing lights confusing drivers coming up behind you while your out cruisin' the strip./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

DFB

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