Tooth Bar question

[quadpa1911]

I have a DK45S with a KL451 FEL 72" bucket I was looking into a tooth bar when the dealer I bought the tractor from told me that it would tear up the loader and bucket. I see a lot of folks here using tooth bars any problems and do's and don'ts?

 

[PAB_OH]

I have a DK45S with a KL451 FEL 72" bucket I was looking into a tooth bar when the dealer I bought the tractor from told me that it would tear up the loader and bucket. I see a lot of folks here using tooth bars any problems and do's and don'ts?

None so far.

If the bar is installed correctly I don't see how you can damage the bucket. The load is carried on the existing cutting edge and fairly well distributed on most of the designs I've seen.

Don't let the dealer scare you. If you use common sense there is no risk to your tractor or loader.

 

[Oleozz]

I've had a tooth bar on my 45 for two years with no problems. I've dug shale and dirt with it, you just have to remember that it's not a cat or excavator and use it accordingly.

Quadpa---Welcome to Tractorbynet, I like your quote!

 

[lunbrjck]

Howdy I installed a toothbar on my KL120 and have moved tons of dirt, dug up huge rocks and several small trees with mine. It is still as good as new would'nt be without it now.

 

[crabjoe]

quadpa,

You can tear up any loader or bucket with a toothbar; even on a skidsteer.

My buddy has a couple of NH Skidsteers and a Toro Dingo. All have toothbars and all 3 have a tooth that's bent and one has some damage to the bucket. It depends on what kind of abuse you do. He's equipment is used for commercial work and his employees don't give a hoot what happens to the equipment.

When I was tractor shopping, even the Bota dealer told me he recommands toothbars on tractors for dirt work. That was even on the BX SCUTs. And believe me the buckets on the BX are made of think steel.

BTW, does your dealer even carry toothbars?

 

[BTI]

I would say just the opposite.
A bucket with a toothbar will have less stress than the bucket without one.

BTI

 

[MikeD74T]

I have a DK45S with Markam toothbar. Not only does it reinforce the bucket cutting edge it also breaks ground better so you spend less time ramming & spinning. And it removes in 5 minutes if you want to. I can't imagine anyone trying a toothbar & not seeing advantages to having one. MikeD74T

 

[JoelD]

Don't have one, but would think tooth bar would make rock pickin a little easier?

 

[PAB_OH]

Joel it helps a bunch with rocks. I've got some sandstone in the back yard and it really helps having the teeth on there. I can sink one or two teeth under the rock, curl the bucket and slowly back out. I usually get it out the first or second time. I'll post some pics later in another thread showing the sizes of rocks I've been able to pull out.

 

[mark.r]

DK45SE w/ Woods toothbar . . . works fine.

 

[mab]

Hi Quadpaw,

Installed a toothbar on my ck20's loader and have used it for a month now. I've moved 15 yds of topsoil and 8 yd of crushed stone as well as numerous other jobs that the toothbar comes in handy for (small stump removal, rock picking, 'raking' vines, etc) The toothbar is very handy for getting an edge under things that would otherwise be difficult to lift. I've had it off twice (takes 5 min) and bucket has no signs of damage. Just be sure that the type that you order fits your bucket exactly (with no side slop or gap under the teeth where they are supported by the original bucket cutting edge). A very useful implement!

 

[quadpa1911]

Thanks to all for your input and response. I'm checking prices and whats available on the West Cost. I found a W.R. Long Dealer 100 miles away which maybe my best bet, $399 for the lighter duty and $499 for the heavy duty.

Again Thank you

 

[IXLR8]

If you have not already, I would give the folks at Markham a call and at least see what theirs would cost.. with shipping. The WR Long stuff is very well made.. but tends to be a little pricey.

 

[MotorSeven]

+1 on the Markham. Had it installed pre-delivery. 200+ hrs later and alot of use in & around rock, no problems at all.
RD

 

[PA hayseed]

I got a toothbar on my 45, no problems. I didn't pay that much for mine, I would look elsewhere.

 

[DirtHauler]

I bought and installed a Gearmore brand tooth bar on my KL130, which requires no drilling, and have done alot of digging including very large bolders with zero damage to either the bucket or the bar.

 

[IXLR8]

I got a toothbar on my 45, no problems. I didn't pay that much for mine, I would look elsewhere.

So what kind is it that we should be looking elsewhere?

 

[crabjoe]

So what kind is it that we should be looking elsewhere?

I know, a couple months ago, Wallace had them on sale for $250 or something. It was under $300. Also, check ebay. There's a company out there that was auctioning off toothbars and most were selling for $100. I remember seeing bars from 48 inches to 67 inches. Some were just odd in size like 53 inches, but they had standard widths too.

BTW, I'd love to see how one mounts without bolts.

 

[PA hayseed]

So what kind is it that we should be looking elsewhere?

I don't know the name of it, but I paid 295 for mine from my dealer. For a bill or two more it better come with a barrel of diesel fuel.

He said the following: I found a W.R. Long Dealer 100 miles away which maybe my best bet, $399 for the lighter duty and $499 for the heavy duty.

 

[rd_macgregor]

I'm in a similar search for my DK45 with the 451 FEL. I was hoping to find a supplier in Canada, but it looks like I may have to go through the hassle of shipping one in from a US supplier.
I held out for a full grapple rake setup for a couple of years, but its clear I'll never afford one of those nifty gadgets (ie, I haven't won the lottery yet!).
I really hate not being able to pick up logs and brushy stuff in the regular bucket, but my near-term use is popping roots of small (less than 6") trees. Will the tooth bar do that OK, do you think?
BOB