Tooth bar uses?

[Dougster]

Dougster: Good to hear from you again . I believe that having a bolt-on toothbar gives you the benefit of having both the toothbar and/or a cutting edge on the bucket. I am not particularly impressed with the design of NH's bolt-on/bolt-over the bolt-on cutting edge toothbar. It was about 2" shorter than the inside of my 60" HD bucket and would not completely slip over the bolt-on cutting edge for a lenghtwise bar-edge continuous contact for strength, but it does contact firmly where the teeth are. It apppears this model was designed for the standard bucket and I had to drill new mounting holes in the side of the buckect (No big deal). I can not complain about the utility of the toothblade ! I can do a lot more with the bucket with the toothbar as it relates to ground engaging tasks and debris moving. I will remove it for the Winter months for snow removal. I have no experience with the landscape toothbars, but I would think that they would catch a lot of rocks between the tines when digging in NE dirt causing the stoppage of the tractor to remove the stuck rocks. Jay

Thanks Jay. So I take it that you've had no issues with toothbar looseness or weakness wherein a set of welded-on teeth might have performed better? I understand the advantage of being able to remove the toothbar, but I've already got two buckets and am fast headed for a third. No personal need here to be putting teeth on or taking them off.

Those landscape toothbars are kind of interesting, but costly and I have to agree with you that they may be more trouble than they are worth in some cases. Still, if all goes according to plan and I get my 66" toothed digging bucket this week... putting one of those landscape toothbars on my old 72" light-duty bucket might not be a completely absurd idea.

Dougster

 

[EdC]

Dougster

If I could add my two cents here: I harass my bolted on toothbar a LOT even splitting rocks along the fault lines in them for landscaping. There has been no problem at all with the bolted on bar.

 

[Dougster]

Dougster If I could add my two cents here: I harass my bolted on toothbar a LOT even splitting rocks along the fault lines in them for landscaping. There has been no problem at all with the bolted on bar.

Thanks Ed - Good to know that looseness or weakness (compared to direct welded teeth) is not an issue. Next step is to see if my most local option in terms of a supplier will take my old 72" bucket and custom fit it with a toothbar vs. working off measured dimensions. Seems to be a common problem out there... getting an exact fit off owner-supplied dimensions alone.

Dougster

 

[ragkar]

You'll be unhappy with the toothbar if your task is grading. I attempted to do this today with poor results (I have to confess to ten hours experience on my 2320) Luckily a visitor offered to show me how to do it. First he took off the bolted on toothbar. Then he dragged the front edge of the bucket (about a 60 degree angle) backwards and forwards over the graveled surface. He stressed keeping the front wheels on the ground and riding the bucket lift control to accommodate the ground surface.

 

[Dougster]

You'll be unhappy with the toothbar if your task is grading. I attempted to do this today with poor results (I have to confess to ten hours experience on my 2320) Luckily a visitor offered to show me how to do it. First he took off the bolted on toothbar. Then he dragged the front edge of the bucket (about a 60 degree angle) backwards and forwards over the graveled surface. He stressed keeping the front wheels on the ground and riding the bucket lift control to accommodate the ground surface.

I would have to agree that backdragging with the purpose of grading with a regular digging toothbar installed wouldn't seem to make much sense... but what about a so-called "landscape toothbar"? It has double the teeth spaced very close together... almost like a super-heavy-duty rake! I would think that has possibilities in some scenarios when the backhoe installed on the back of the tractor prevents easy jobsite use of the rake or box blade.

On the other hand, the local (MA) company that makes those landscape toothbars and sells them on eBay is far from responsive... actually kind of hard to deal with. The idea may or may not have merit... but the manufacturer seems a bit out to lunch unfortunately.

Dougster

 

[prosperity]

Dougster,

If you are set on having that many teeth on a tooth bar, Markham will accommodate you.

I just ordered a 53" bar with 7 teeth vs. the standard 5. The charge for the extra teeth is $26 per tooth - get as many as you want.

Plus, super excellent and prompt service.

 

[Dougster]

Dougster, If you are set on having that many teeth on a tooth bar, Markham will accommodate you. I just ordered a 53" bar with 7 teeth vs. the standard 5. The charge for the extra teeth is $26 per tooth - get as many as you want. Plus, super excellent and prompt service.

I guess most folks are very satisfied with Markham. I avoided considering them after Bill6 reported several crooked teeth on the toothbar he ordered (even though it was eventually replaced by Markham... just didn't need the hassle) and because shipping costs had to be much higher than my local source.

I'm still not convinced that the heavily-toothed "landscape toothbar" approach has merit, but I've been told that pretty much all custom toothbar and bucket manufacturers will provide extra teeth if you're willing to pay for them.

Dougster

 

[jbrumberg]

Dougster:

I apologize for not responding earlier to your question to me regarding toothbar looseness and/or weakness: So far I have had no problems , but once I am in better shape I will be taking on my raised rock flower bed project. This will be a good test. Jay

 

[Dougster]

Dougster: I apologize for not responding earlier to your question to me regarding toothbar looseness and/or weakness: So far I have had no problems , but once I am in better shape I will be taking on my raised rock flower bed project. This will be a good test. Jay

Thanks Jay. I've pretty much decided that my new 66" aggressive digging bucket will have welded teeth (couldn't pick it up last week due to continuing trailer problems... maybe Tuesday?) and the 72" light-duty bucket will be backfitted with a toothbar of some kind... manufacturer yet unknown. In that latter regard, a lot will depend on tightness and accuracy of fit. That's where your remaining input will be most valuable.

Dougster

 

[jbrumberg]

Dougster:

Can do ... Will do . Jay