toothbar or weld-on teeth

[swick1]

I've got a JD 1026r that I want to either put a tooth bar on or install some weld-on teeth with replaceable tips. Is there any advantage to the toothbar besides being removable? I can't imagine i'd ever want to remove my weld-on teeth. Is there a big difference structurally?

I was looking at these teeth: WET-1 Berlon: Weld on Teeth

 

[RoyJackson]

The tooth bar has a bar (the teeth are welded to) that fits the cutting edge of your bucket. This bar would reinforce the bucket's cutting edge (which the weld on teeth would not)...less likely to damage your bucket.
Also, the tooth bar is removable...as are the individual teeth (the teeth on my tooth bar are pinned in place), so easier to repair or replace, if necessary.
Since the tooth bar is removable, your bucket will be more versatile. As an example, you probably wouldn't want a tooth bar (or teeth on the bucket) when removing snow.

 

[LD1]

I was facing the same dilema.

A tooth bar would have been nice, but expensive.

Weld on seemed too permanent.

I compromised and got bolt on teeth and drilled/tapped the bucket cutting edge itself. So they are still removable.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/199977-my-new-bucket-teeth.html

 

[swick1]

I would probably want a smooth cutting edge for scraping sidewalks after I throw dirt all over them wouldn't I? Honestly all I really do with the tractor is dirt work. I've never tried snow removal yet.

 

[RoyJackson]

I would probably want a smooth cutting edge for scraping sidewalks after I throw dirt all over them wouldn't I? Honestly all I really do with the tractor is dirt work. I've never tried snow removal yet.

Well, it does depend on what you'll use the tractor for...

 

[swick1]

Berlon: Serrated Edge

Secret option #3???

 

[sixdogs]

My vote is for the toothbar as RoyJackson suggests and is what I would do. Yeah, it costs more because it has more benefits.
Maybe next in line would be what LD1 did. Second only in that it would take a while to remove the teeth if you wanted to. As well, the edge would not be as strong as with a toothbar.
Just my two cents.

 

[9973720wb19]

I have a toothbar and it stays off most of the winter for snow removal. other things that are hard to do with the the toothbar on include: smooth spreading of dirt and stones. I think you'll be sorry if you weld teeth on

 

[F250DSLPWR]

Go with the tooth bar, you may want to back drag to smooth things out in the future. The tooth bar also wear its cutting edge rather than the buckets cutting edge.

 

[creekbend]

I have a tooth bar made by W.R.Long. It has 8 teeth and is quite easy to remove when you need your tractor for other tasks. As others have commented, it protects the bucket especially when working with or digging up rocks.

 

[glkingar]

I also vote for the tooth bar. I also have pallet forks and being able to remove the tooth bar makes it easier to put the forks on. Just my .02 worth.

Gerry

 

[teg]

Tooth bars are expensive... I bought a used one but have not taken it off.

Have you thought about this one:
Berlon: Mini Tooth Bar

 

[JohninCT]

I'll jump in and say get the toothbar. Don't underestimate the advantage of removability. It effectively gives you two buckets. As for structural I agree with Roy, toothbar gives you two cutting edges together which is going to be stronger

 

[cschulz]

A removable tooth bar IMO is the best option. I made my own for $150-$175
I looked up some shanks I liked and teeth/pins. Bought a piece of 3/8 hot rolled metal and welded on the shanks. Pinned on the teeth then bolted the hole bar to the bucket. Slides over and captures the bucket. A couple bolts and on or off.

Chris
(not mine but same idea)

 

[bearcreek paul]

You can make your own like Chris said.The real cheap way is the scrap yard for some road plate,next is a walk on an old set of railroad tracks for spikes.15 $ for the plate more or less spikes for free.
Fire up the welder and have some fun,

 

[swick1]

Thanks for the help guys. I'm having my own design cut out at the shop tomorrow from AR-400. This is the stuff they make excavator cutting edges out of. AR means abrasion resistant and it's tough as heck!

Here's a 90% accurate mockup picture. I took some ideas from wr long and tried to size it appropriately to my tractor.

 

[djw250]

Sounds good. Of course you know we need pictures when you're done.