Toothbar - replaceable teeth?

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John_Mc

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I'm finally getting around to getting a toothbar for the Woods model 1012 loader on my NH TC33D. Woods sells two models: Standard w/ welded on teeth, and deluxe with replaceable teeth (the deluxe also fits over a bolt on cutting edge, which I do not have).

Any comments on how desirable the replaceable teeth are? I'm not doing any commercial work with this unit, but I would like to dig out a few good sized rocks, and some stumps (most stumps less than 4 - 5"), along with some general earth moving. I wasn't sure how likely it would be that I'd ever need to replace the teeth. Also, not sure how good a fit I'll get with the deluxe bar, without the cutting edge installed (don't want to loose any more lift capacity than necessary)

Any comments would be appreciated.

John Mc
 
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I have a JD 790 and have replaceable teeth on my removeable tooth bar. I have used it around 140 hours to move a hill from one side of the driveway to the other to fill in 10,000 years of eroison. The teeth ends were orginially 1/4 in blunt ends, now they are sharp as a axe and can pickup logs by sticking the teeth into them. By the wear I'm getting I looks like I'd need to replace them at around 500 hours of digging. But, the sharp teeth making digging in clay a whole lot eaiser.
 
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John,
I don't have an opinion on the replaceable teeth as I've only had my toothbar for about a month.

But I do have the deluxe Woods toothbar and am very happy with the fit. It seems the V just gets wider near the back to accomodate the bolt-on cutting edge (which I do not have). If you push the toothbar back far enough, the bucket lip fits into the V, giving it a nice tight fit. I take it if you had the bolt-on cutting edge, it wouldn't slide back quite as far and your holes would need to be drilled slightly forward.

I've attached a picture of the replaceable teeth. I wish I had a picture of the fit (from the side), but I don't have one with me. I can take one if you'd like. The shadow makes it look like there is a gap, but it is actually very snug.

Hope this helps.

--Brad
 
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Brad,

OOPS! No picture!
 
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Forgot the pic. /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif
 

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Garry,
You're too quick! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

That's the problem with work, I get interrupted and just hit send. I need a sign 'Do Not Disturb - TBN time'. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

--Brad
 
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I hear you Brad. I'm at work too, but on a Monday, I figure I have to ease into the work week/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif. What better way than to see what's been going on at TBN? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I've been interrupted while at work too (I hate that - how can I keep up with you guys if they keep interrupting me??), and have forgotten to hit the continue button when posting a message. Later, I go back to that thread to see what other comments have been made and don't see my post. Like - I did post it, right?/w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif Maybe I didn't. /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif
 
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Thanks for the picture of the replaceable teeth. If you get a chance, a pic of how it fits over the bucket edge would be appreciated. It looks as though the side bracket on the toothbar might have slotted bolt holes? If so, it might be possible to fit either with or without a bolt on cutting edge by just sliding to one end or the other of the slots??

John Mc.
 
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John, you're right. It does have a slotted bolt hole. Hope this picture helps.

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--Brad
 

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Brad

Nice pictures... thanks.

Do you have a cutting edge installed, or is that the bucket edge in the photo?

John
 
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Just the HD bucket showing through. No bolt-on cutting edge.
 
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my toothbar looks identical to brads, but mine is a WR LONG. and attaches in the same manner on my b2400.
 
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Brad,

Neat new signature. Just be careful so that it's not a forecast of a future event! /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif
 
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Brad -

I got my Woods HD toothbar today. Unfortunately, the mounting system is different from yours, and is causing some problems (strange, since it's a Woods loader and bucket).

From the pictures you were kind enough to post, yours looks like it has a solid piece of flat stock running across the top of your bucket cutting edge, and individual tines or prongs at each tooth which wrap around the bottom of the cutting edge. This seems to allow a nice tight seat on yours. Mine has two solid bars, welded together to form a shallow "V" which the bucket edge should slide into. The teeth are mounted off of the top bar. Unfortunately, rather than welding the two flat pieces together where they meet at the point of the V, they welded it about midway down the inside of the V in about 6 or seven places along the length. This keeps the bucket edge from sliding all the way down the groove. I did not drill the holes to mount the bar, since I'm not happy with how it seats. There is a lot of room for the cutting edge to slop up and down inside the V. It also results in a very dull cutting edge: two pieces of approx 1/4" flat stock which do not quite meet at the point of the V (completely covering the edge of the bucket). They are not sharpened in any way, so I have a blunt edge over 1/2" thick to try to dig into what ever I am scooping up.

This looks like a much poorer design than yours. Are you sure yours was a Woods? Mine was still in the Woods box when I brought it home.

John Mc
 
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<font color=blue>since it's a Woods loader and bucket</font color=blue>

Maybe they have a different model that is made specifically for their loader. I have a NH loader so I just assumed my toothbar was a generic model.

I'll try to look my toothbar over tonight and see if it has a model number or anything on it, although I don't remember seeing one.

--Brad
 
 

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