Flail Mower Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore?

   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #41  
Well, can't argue with manufacturers requirements or recommendations so I guess we can conclude then that if in doubt, check with the specific manufacturer of the mower in question.
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore?
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#42  
Aloha TBNers,
Thanks again for all the excellent input. GinNB, sounds like you do quite a bit of chopping. Aside from getting a chopper that can handle the branch diameter, I need to get a machine that won't self destruct or shatter hammers when I hit rocks.

I'm leaning toward the "Perfect" brand flail prunning chopper from the Netherlands. With 5lb hammers and a claim to pulverize 4" branches, it should do what I need. The other machine in close second is a Gearmore GCF series with 2.5lb hammers and a claim to pulverize 2.5 ' branches. I've used this implement previously, and it did well. A friend has had one for years and has never lost a hammer, even when hitting rocks.

So it seems to me that bigger hammers can handle rocks better than smaller hammers or knives. Is this true?

Mahalo nui loa,
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #43  
Fred Cowell said:
Aloha TBNers,
I need to get a machine that won't self destruct or shatter hammers when I hit rocks. ,

Rocks? What rocks? I don't see no stinking rocks. You live Hawaii. You just need a flail that eats lava for breakfast.:D
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #44  
IslandTractor said:
Rocks? What rocks? I don't see no stinking rocks. You live Hawaii. You just need a flail that eats lava for breakfast.:D

I can definitely attest to the fact that we grow rocks on this side of the island. Seems every time I mow, there are new ones and the little ones have grown bigger.:confused: :confused: :D

David
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #45  
3/16"ish short paired Y-shaped knives hanging from some sort of D-ring survive rocks the best in my experience but don't chop thick wood. Tied for worst seem to be long heavy paired L-shaped knives and long thin hammers. Hammers tend to break where the head narrows above the wide knife part. Long heavy L-shaped knives hit rocks where the elbows of the Ls meet and bend outward and upward, leaving you with curled knives and a funny uneven cut afterwards.

If I were looking for a mower whose primary use would be for mulching light cut brush with some rocks sticking up into the mix, I'd look for something with VERY heavy (5/16" thick) Y-shaped knives on a D-ring or wide, short, heavy hammers. Hammers, IMHO, do a better job on sticks. For cutting standing brush and mulching afterwards, I'd do two passes- heavy rotary capable of at least a 4" stick for knocking it down and a heavy flail for chopping. A tractor with a really slow gear is required, because high-hp tractors with break even heavy mowers if fed too quickly.

Either that or get the REAL solution for mulching sticks and trees, an FAE forestry or ag mulcher. Fae Usa Pasture mowers These're for people with money/horsepower to burn or who have enough work to do that they can keep them working for months at a time. With fixed knives, you don't select just a cutting height, you can select an operating DEPTH! :eek: The forestry versions are the heaviest mulchers I've ever seen in use. Feed them 125hp and they'll grind 6"-8" stumps off at ground level. They can do more, but you either need a super-slow creeper or bog down your tractor over and over. Feed them 250hp and they'll grind whatever you want. Almost bought one but I'd have had to buy a 150+hp tractor w/creeper and spend a minimum of $40,000 (the really big heavy ones are $90,000) on a 225cm mulcher to do what I wanted to do.

If you're mowing lots of rocks with a mower whose cuttershaft rotates counter to the tractor's tires, make sure you've got a good screen protecting your rear window or head, especially if you're using hammers and the front lower shroud of the mower gets damaged or bent a bit. Those knives or hammers will scoop up rocks or shattered bits of rocks and fire 'em forward and, yes, upward. Don't ask... :)
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #46  
Now here's the experience story; The VRISIMO Mighty Max I had came with "scoop" blades which is great for mowing lawns! So I ordered the "Y" blades from VRISIMO, changed them out and WHAM! It vibrated clear thru the tractor! Called VRISIMO and told them what happened. They told me that's a no-no! They said you HAVE to order the mower with the type blades you want as they are balanced to the blades but if I wanted to drive back down to Modesto with it, they would re-balance it for me but it would take a day.


FOR SALE: New "Y" blades for a Mighty Max in box (any buyers?)
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #47  
DirtHauler said:
Now here's the experience story; The VRISIMO Mighty Max I had came with "scoop" blades which is great for mowing lawns! So I ordered the "Y" blades from VRISIMO, changed them out and WHAM! It vibrated clear thru the tractor! Called VRISIMO and told them what happened. They told me that's a no-no! They said you HAVE to order the mower with the type blades you want as they are balanced to the blades but if I wanted to drive back down to Modesto with it, they would re-balance it for me but it would take a day.


FOR SALE: New "Y" blades for a Mighty Max in box (any buyers?)

Are you saying that even taking it back to Vrisimo to be rebalanced would only happen with the original blades or could they balance it with the new knives?
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #48  
I think what dirt was saying is that the mower was balanced originally with the knives it came with and that if you replace the knives and notice a vibration, vrisimo will rebalance it to the new replacement knives.

This was never mentioned to me when I purchased my mower. In fact, the salesman and parts guy at Vrisimo was showing me the various knives (and how many I would need) to replace my hammers with knives, if I was so inclined.
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #49  
IslandTractor said:
Are you saying that even taking it back to Vrisimo to be rebalanced would only happen with the original blades or could they balance it with the new knives?
They where going to rebalance it with the new blades. If you go to the factory, as I did, you'll see they have racks of unpainted rotors with the blades/hammers already installed and balanced. Now don't get me wrong, Vrisimo is very well made mower and heavy but the sales department is right next door to the factory and I was told the same thing about switching blades, but if you talk to the guy who actually builds them, he'll tell ya different.
 
   / Toughest Flail Mower: Gearmore? #50  
More confused still.:eek:

I gotta get this squared away soon. I plan on buying a mower this week.
 
 

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