Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better?

[sd455dan]

Okay, but what is cars.com to you? Are they a source that you commonly use for automotive data, or is this just something you're using because it claims Tundra is more American? Code54's link just parrots the cars.com list. Kelley Blue Book and a few others parrots my list. I'm saying I've never used cars.com before, and find them irrelevant. Look at were they've placed Mustang and Vette. Those cars have traditionally been top 5 cars on this list. Did they just fall of the globe? Again who cares though? F150/GM trucks (yes)/Ram are all extremely American made. So is Titan and Tundra. They better be if they wish to compete.

You have a point on where the most reliable info comes from.

I can buy into the Tesla story, because they are a top down integrated company and design/engineer / build many of the the parts controls castings and sheetmetal stampings.
I have owned one Toyota pick up it was rolled and after buying parts to replace the roof sold it as parts also an FJ 40 Landcruiser one 1970 Corona Mk2 in 1980 it was reliable but gutless. an Avalon and Lexus LS 400 in the family.
trucks we owned some older F250s couple Chev 2500s Jeep trucks J10 and 20 lots of Wagoneers and Grand Cherokees

Now mainly we have Dodge/ Ram 2500 3500 with Cummins power other family members, Raptor that replaced 3.5 eco boosts and a new Ranger Tremor in the extended family but sorry no Toyotas.

 

[RidgeTopWVA]

BTW check out this video:

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Do the F-150's have the heated tail gates ?

 

[Code54]

Cool story bro! How about you post a link instead. 5.7 seconds isn't all that fast in 2023, especially when you're rated at over 580 lb-ft, but yes the GEN2 5.7L trucks won't run 5.7 second 0-60 times. BTW do they make compound boost kits for the new 3.4L/hybrid motor V6 trucks because by saying "blower" I thought I was implying GEN2 V8 Tundra. But sure I'd love to run a new Tundra. It would be just like the Pearl Harbor attack getting skeeted on by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Here. Stock truck running a custom flex fuel tune (GEN2+ Coyote F150's are factory flex fuel vehicles BTW) on E85.

All I was doing was pointing out a source of info - take it or leave it I don't care. I can find all kinds of conflicting info as it depends on how the person making the list decides what "made in the USA" The point is this Toyota is basically as made in America as anything else.

As for the truck's speed - Been towing/hauling for a long time and the 0-60 was never part of the equation. I would say most truck buyers are not walking into the RAM/Chevy/Ford/Etc dealer and saying "I need a 4x4 truck, what is the fastest 0-60 - I'll take it. If that is your biggest concern maybe you should be looking at a sports car or a TRX. When I haul a pallet of mulch or pull 12K in gravel 0- 60 is the last thing I am worried about. Personally, I am more interested in the 60 to 0 time! If "fast" is important I guess you can dump a bunch of money in any truck and make it "fast" - if you want "fast" on the cheap by a crotch rocket (motorcycle)

 

[Gator6x4]

I looked it up:
2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro CrewMax 4X4
0-60 mph 5.7

Wow - they are really slow....

I have always purchased a truck to haul stuff. If I wanted a 0-60 speedster I would have purchased one of these.

Or if 200 plus mph speed was my objective I would purchase one of these.

 

[dodge man]

A picture of my 2010 Dodge Challenger dash, 5.7 Hemi, showing the 0 to 60 time. I’ve got it in the high 4’s a couple of times. Yeah, I want enough power in my truck to get around but being quick isn’t that important.

 

[WinterDeere]

I have always purchased a truck to haul stuff. If I wanted a 0-60 speedster I would have purchased one of these.

Or if 200 plus mph speed was my objective I would purchase one of these.

Despite such claims to the contrary, I haven't met many people who only want to have or eat their cake. My truck is hardly the fastest vehicle in my garage, but I still want it to be faster than yours. I don't need it to do 4 second quarter miles, but I do want it to beat the guy in the lane next to me, on my way to retrieve some lumber and plumbing at the Lowes Depot.

 

[WinterDeere]

Because your fellow Tundra owners are averaging 15 mpg WITHOUT towing anything.

15 mpg ain't bad in a full-size 1/2 ton pickup. I don't get that in my pickup OR my sedan.

It takes a certain amount of liquid energy to accelerate 4600 lb. of steel from a stop to highway speed, which is mostly independent of the shape of the badge on the grill. If you want to save fuel, you'd do better by lightening the load or change driving habits, more than changing the brand name of that 4600 lb. anchor into which you're placing your butt.

 

[deezler]

Oh, I don't disagree. I had to work really hard to get a full tank of 15 mpg in my '03 2500HD (6.0L LQ4), usually it was 12-13mpg. But now I have a 2019 F150 that effortlessly gets 19-20 mpg even if I accelerate like mad every now and then. Even a new chevy/GMC with the 5.3L and 10-spd will hit 20mpg pretty easily. The bar has been raised.

I picked up a used SCT tuner for my F150... +100 HP with the push of a button (and tank of premium fuel). Haven't hit the button yet... but it's only a matter of time. Plenty of new 3.5L Ecoboost F150s are running high 12s/low 13s in the 1/4 mile with only basic mods. Extremely powerful motor in a lightweight, aluminum body truck. And 10 speed trans that doesn't mind banging fast shifts all day long.

 

[WinterDeere]

There were several years early in our marriage, when I had to go without a "fun" car, which had previously always been one of my vices. I had a pickup truck, and my wife always got the "fun" car. So, when I wanted to run somewhere quick and not drive the truck, I'd take her car.

I always found it funny that the trip computer would be reading around 30 mpg when I'd hop in the thing, after she'd been driving it all week, and then it would read closer to 20 mpg after an hour or two with me behind the wheel. After awhile, it almost became a game, seeing how big a ratio I could get between my numbers and hers.

Put simply, your aggression and the type of roads your driving may have a much bigger impact on your net mileage, than what's under the hood.

 

[Farmer495]

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Didn't say I am towing 10k with it, I just said I am pleased as punch.

325 HP and 400 lb-ft at 2750 RPM is nothing to sneeze at.

Considering the first Cummins Ram was 160HP and 400 ft of torque.