Tractor comparisons (MF, Kubota, Kioti)

MessickFarmEqu · Jan 13, 2006

You can add weight to any tractor and make it a "heavy" utility. Heck between iron weights and fluids you can add a good 1500lbs to the tires alone.

If you are concerned about COG New Holland makes low profile TN's that would probably be along the lines of what your looking for.

JerryG · Jan 13, 2006

You can add weight to any tractor and make it a "heavy" utility 
You are missing the point and I think that you know that you are. By a heavy utility, I am not referring to only the total weigh even though that is a big part. The other part being, the size of the components. The lift arms, the axles, the transmission case. Everything is heavier. As much as some would like to think that Kubota tractors are heavy duty, they are not. Everything that they have is compacts, even though they may be listed and horsepowered as utilities.

RedDog · Jan 13, 2006

As much as some would like to think that Kubota tractors are heavy duty, they are not. 

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IslandTractor · Jan 13, 2006

I understand your point, that Kubotas are engineered with "lighter" components than some other tractors, but Messick's point is totally valid: If weight on the ground is the important factor in performance of a task then it matters not whether the weight comes from the cast iron axle or the beet juice in the tires. If you are suggesting that Kubotas are lightweight with the implication that they are less sturdy I would like to see some data. I think the conventional wisdom and experience on TBN suggests that they are as tough and reliable as anything out there. Lightweight in no way implies weak so long as products are properly engineered and built.

JerryG · Jan 13, 2006

I would like to see some data. 
For what? Go look at them. It is self appearant.
 If you are suggesting that Kubotas are lightweight with the implication that they are less sturdy I would like to see some data. 
Once again. Go look at them.
I knew that someone would try to say that I was cutting down Kubota. I am not. That are a good or very good tractor for many things. Every manufacture can't have an exact cross over model for every other manufacture. Kubota has had their name in light weight tractors. That is where they shine. They just don't have a heavy duty utility nor do they have two hundred horse tractors.
Lightweight in no way implies weak so long as products are properly engineered and built. 
Light weight or light duty doesn't mean bad quality.

MessickFarmEqu · Jan 13, 2006

Well, if it matters I have never heard of a single person who has broken a transmission case, 3pt hardware, axle, or the like on any of the utility class machines. No one will argue that Kubota builds a light weight tractor, however to imply that its a light duty machine is simply wrong. I'm not quite sure what your looking for? If another machine is "heavier" great, it just seems to me that all the extra mass is rather pointless. I'd rather be able to choose where I want my weight and how much of it I need.

( Light weight or light duty doesn't mean bad quality.
)

Then what are you trying to say?

JerryG · Jan 13, 2006

Fellows,
You can put all the weight on a tractor that you want, but that doesn't make it heavy duty or light duty. All that means is that you weighted it down.

JerryG · Jan 13, 2006

I also want to say that I have a MF 40 horse compact. It is in the same class as the Kubotas. It many be heavy duty when compared to some compacts, but it is not in the same duty class as a 400 series Massey. No way, No how.

gamble77 · Jan 13, 2006

Yeah,

Everyone is right to an extent. Just to make sure I went and checked the specs between the M6800 and MF471...the 471 specs out better, weighs more, etc. I have seen both units and the MF is obviously the stouter looking...now I would rather have the Kubota because it is much more refined and the hydraulic shuttle is nice...just my thoughts.