Tractor decision

[CloverKnollFarms]

No treadle, 2 pedals like mostly everyone else.

They built the 3 and 4 cylinder diesels for Cummins for many years, now they are putting them in the tractors. Old school, proven engines, coupled with Bosch mechanical pump thats in million other small diesels. No electronics, you can take the DEF out and engine will not know its missing.

TYM just started building tractors for Yanmar...

Yep, no stupid seat sensors, no limp modes, they will just run.

 

[paulsharvey]

There is a guy right now, on here, in main land New York, selling one heck of a MF1760M cab, loader, for $37.5k.

 

[rScotty]

Rural folks use their tractors a lot. Sometimes it is just a simple lift and carry chore. A few times now it has helped save us from a disaster.
If my wife and I were to sit down and write one page listing all the things we have appreciated most about our tractors through the years, I doubt the purchase price would even be mentioned.

rScotty

 

[Torvy]

Me personally, and this is 100% just opinion/preference, I preferred the Kioti to the TYM in just minor small things; seat, overall look of quality (hard to describe what I mean by that, maybe more modern or more thought out?), and the price was about the same.

The first TYM dealer I visited carried both Kioti and TYM. I has 100% the opposite take looking at them side by side. TYM machine felt more solid. I didn't get a cab, but the cab was much nicer than rhe Kioti cab (roomier). More standard features for the money too.

I have the T574 and it has been nice and comfortable. I'm 6'1" ~260. The newest ones also come with work lights and Bluetooth speaker (I didn't even realize I would get those.) Lights are nice. I've used the speaker, but not a feature that would change my opinion.

That being said, the Kioti is not a bad machine. If your dealer is better, that might change things.

 

[paulsharvey]

Now, a smaller class CK2610 vs TYM 2515; I went in thinking I wanted the TYM; I also looked at the RK25/T25. From online, I really expected the 2515 to be a half size larger than the CK. That dealer carried both, and when I realized they where virtual the same size, then the small things got me, and went kioti. It really was small things, and just preference kinda stuff.

 

[rScotty]

There is a guy right now, on here, in main land New York, selling one heck of a MF1760M cab, loader, for $37.5k.

Interest and discussion in used tractors has been declining for years now. At present there doesn't seem to be a lot of buyers looking for used machinery. That is reflected in the price.
rScotty

 

[bomberodevil]

Interest and discussion in used tractors has been declining for years now. At present there doesn't seem to be a lot of buyers looking for used machinery. That is reflected in the price.
rScotty

Hope that holds true until next summer!

 

[paulsharvey]

Well, a lot of people selling, seem to want new price, for a 2 or 5 year old machine. If I'm going to buy used, I want to see a substantial cost savings. A $50k machine for $37k, is a pretty significant cost savings. A $40k machine for $35k isn't really.

 

[George2615]

Well, a lot of people selling, seem to want new price, for a 2 or 5 year old machine. If I'm going to buy used, I want to see a substantial cost savings. A $50k machine for $37k, is a pretty significant cost savings. A $40k machine for $35k isn't really.

If I was in the market for a larger tractor I'd be all over that Massey. Good find paulsharvey

 

[rScotty]

Well, a lot of people selling, seem to want new price, for a 2 or 5 year old machine. If I'm going to buy used, I want to see a substantial cost savings. A $50k machine for $37k, is a pretty significant cost savings. A $40k machine for $35k isn't really.

Well, I can think of several things that work in your advantage even if the price is close to original.
That sounds counter-intuitive, but here are some things to ponder...

All of this assumes that our used buyer - maybe that is you or maybe not - but whoever it is, will only buy something used from someone who takes care of it. And if he does that, he gets ffree his break-in time and someone else's time spent attending to warranty and maintenance. The Original Purchaser (OP here) did all that, so the used purchaser can enjoy the benefits. From this point, if the first thousand hours were done right the tractor will most probably not require anything for a decade.

And then there are extras. The guy selling a used tractor to either of us probably has literature, spare parts, a maintenance history....chains, filters maybe even some special tools for it. Those should either all come along or for a nominal fee,

And then there is the financial side. It turns out that it does cost a buyer today less than than the original buyer paid even if the used buyer pays the same dollars the first guy did. Use any of the online inflation/interest cost calculators to figure out how much.
That online calculator will tell you what dollars back then will buy new today. Not as much..... but that's just because on average, dollars are worth less today than in any previous year.

For example, compared to buying a $50K tractor in 2018, there is already a 20% cost advantage compared to buying the same tractor new today - even more so if the price is dropped to $37.5K. Inflation can be made to work as an advantage in the used market.

rScotty