Tractor Ergonomics

[milkman]

LB, I really think you need to have your brakes fixed before you get hurt, or your pretty orange tractor gets bent, my brakes have always worked although they are better than they were when new. I cannot take off in high range if I have the brake on, it will move in low range with the brake on, but I definitely know that something is wrong. There is an adjustment under the floorboard if you haven't tried that, you really need to do something.

 

[638]

LBrown,

On your BX23, raise the seat and on the right hand side of the tranny you will find the wiring that goes to the high/low shift lever safety switch. Unplug that pair of wires from the switch and insert a short jumper wire in the plug. Wrap the plug with tape and you will have just disabled the stupid high/low safety and can now start the engine with the tractor in gear. That was the very first mod that I did on mine. Now I don't worry about my handycaped son losing control when starting on the hill in our back yard

ron

 

[LBrown59]

LBrown,

On your BX23, raise the seat and on the right hand side of the tranny you will find the wiring that goes to the high/low shift lever safety switch. Unplug that pair of wires from the switch and insert a short jumper wire in the plug. Wrap the plug with tape and you will have just disabled the stupid high/low safety and can now start the engine with the tractor in gear. That was the very first mod that I did on mine. Now I don't worry about my handycaped son losing control when starting on the hill in our back yard

ron

It baffles me as to why Kubota thinks it's safer to start a tractor in neutral with nothing to hold it in place than starting it in gear with something that keeps it from coasting away.

== L B ==

 

[art]

Is there a kit to move the FEL lever to the fender area so that it would be right by where your right hand would be if you let it naturally lay next to the seat? that would be the best!

Order a kit for a fender mount or cab mount control.

 

[mswlogo]

It baffles me as to why Kubota thinks it's safer to start a tractor in neutral with nothing to hold it in place than starting it in gear with something that keeps it from coasting away.

== L B ==

Stop beating a dead horse and get your breaks fixed. It appears Kubtoa agreed with you on starting in neutral and fixed it on the bx24.

 

[FullBucket]

Just in case an orange designer ever reads this thread, I think the treadle and seperate pedal folks could both be satisfied by good design. How about connecting the pedals on the left side to form a treadle and have tabs jutting out front and back that could be operate with your heel on deck (sort of like the letter c). Just a thought

If I ever find the time I think I might experiment with an added treadle.

 

[ultrarunner]

The one I don't think will ever go away is if you ever go to start the tractor on a slope and the tractor goes rolling down the hill when you put it in neutral because you've forgotten to set the brake and once it gets moving there is no way to stop it.
The BX starting procedure is a very dangerous situation in such cases.
You should never be able to put the tractor in neutral when there is nothing to hold tractor in place.
If it hasn't happened already I's a wonder somebody hasn't gotten hurt or killed because of this.
The BX starting method is a ticket to disaster sooner or later!
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I agree... most of my BX work has been clearing my hillsides.

The only time I felt the machine lacking is in the brake department. I may be partially to blame because two times I've started off and noticed the tractor felt sluggish and discovered I had left the parking brake set.

Anyway, you've only got hydraulics with the engine running and without hydraulic, the only thing you got to keep from rolling on a slope is very marginal brakes.

The matter is complicated by having to shift to neutral in order to start or restart the engine. More then once, I've had to stomp on the brake pedal to keep from rolling. Luckily, the engine has always immediately started.

 

[LBrown59]

As mentioned earlier, the only time I use the brake is to park, and when I looked at the new BX 2350, the one thing I noticed that I didn't like was the new forward/reverse pedal are separate. I like the one on the earlier BX2200, don't have to move my foot, just rock my foot forward or back, even the new BX2350 is better than the side by side pedals, don't have to look which is forward and which is reverse, easy to mix up in a tight spot even after long time use.

Good point.

 

[milkman]

Good point.

Thank you and MERRY CHRISTMAS. Did you listen to several people and get , your brakes fixed, there is nothing wrong with the BX brakes, yours needs to be fixed before you get hurt.

 

[skippy957]

Kubota should install 2 separated breaks on the BX like the B series.
Went I pull hard with BX2350 the front end raise in the air and no more direction control.

 

[milkman]

Kubota should install 2 separated breaks on the BX like the B series.
Went I pull hard with BX2350 the front end raise in the air and no more direction control.

More weight on the front helps, but it would be neat to have the two pedal brakes, been thinking about that while I recouperate, maybe hand operated possibly cable, without affecting the parking brake that is there, still cogitating.

 

[FullBucket]

While brakes are the topic of discussion, anyone got an idea why the brake peddle is so high off the deck on the 2350? I expect they wanted considerable throw length to ensure max force on brake but its way too high. When you need the brake in a hurry there's very little time to find it. I've driven other tractors that had the brake near the same height as the accelerator. Much safer. Thoughts?

 

[Harry c]

Hi Full Bucket.
That is exactly the same question that started this thread back in November. Look at the very first post.
Hope everyone had a great Christmas.

 

[art]

While brakes are the topic of discussion, anyone got an idea why the brake peddle is so high off the deck on the 2350? I expect they wanted considerable throw length to ensure max force on brake but its way too high. When you need the brake in a hurry there's very little time to find it. I've driven other tractors that had the brake near the same height as the accelerator. Much safer. Thoughts?

I only find a need for the brake when parking. Does yours freewheel?

 

[workinallthetime]

that was the first thing i noticed when i moved up from the ole bx23 to the b3030, heck of a lot better brakes and no more having to start the thing in N. I sucked seat cover more than once when that thing took off down the hill because i had to move to the N position to go to the RUN positon in my pants.

 

[FullBucket]

Art,

I wouldn't say outright freewheel, but it seems to sometimes take a full revolution of the front tire before HST kicks in. This has got my attention a couple of times; like when dropping snow in a ditch and starting to sink the front tire, and rolling into the garage and coming closer to the back wall than intended. Hasn't really caused any difficulty just an anxious moment or two. I guess my car driving experience leads me to go for the brake rather than tapping the reverse, but I am starting to adjust. The reverse however does kick in with that annoying jerk unless I'm pretty soft on the deceleration. If the forward and reverse weren't so far apart I'd just rock my boot.

Hopefully something the designers fix for the next one.