tractor roleover

BrettW · Mar 26, 2005

OK, read the whole post as I will be dragging logs out of my woods up hill. What is the safest way to do this? I can cut them onsite and just bring up pieces in the loader I suppose. I was planning o dragging them out backwards using the loader/ chains and a boxblade on the back for balance.
I also remember a post showing someone that made a metal device with chains on it that slipped under the log, a little sled if you will. Seemed like a good idea. Anyone recall that post? thanks, bw

slydog · Mar 26, 2005

Lots of good threads on here about log skidding. I think you are referring to a skid pan. Do a search for "log skidding" and you'll find lots of info. Also, MossRoad I think had a link to a very good log hauler that might give you some ideas for making one of your own. AHAA..found the thread with the link. It's called a logging arch. This is different than a skid pan, but will give you some ideas. Here's the link. Hope it helps.

Log skidding thread

BRIGUY · Mar 28, 2005

I'm a firm believer in the chaining the butt of the log in the bucket and going backwards method. (With the bucket almost skimming the ground) Sure the machine will surely pull more going forward, but I have pulled entire trees the length of my property this way. People have stopped and watched in disbelief. How can that little thing pull such a big tree??

Last summer I moved many trees with my BX some 20+ inches in dia, and I have hung up on other stumps or fallen trees. The worst thing that happened was the tractor stopped.

I have gotten her on 2 wheels a few times doing other things (Moving stumps) and I didn't like it at all.

KiotiJohn · Mar 28, 2005

One of the main things you have to worry about if you're pulling on slopes is that the log may roll, pulling your tractor along with it. Whatever you decide to use, make sure it has some type of breakaway so that if the log begins to roll, your hook up lets go and doesn't pull your tractor over. John

Soundguy · Mar 28, 2005

( My guess is if you are bending a toplink.. you are doing something with the tractor you shouldn't be doing.
No, it is called rough terrain brush hogging. I quite using a third arm when mowing about three years. No more problems with third arms. )

I believe you should have slack in the toplink. Most mowers I see provide for quite a few inches of 'give', either by a slotted connection, or by a 'swing' connection.

If those won't solve your rough terain problems, IMHO you need to be using a mower setup as 'drag' configuration. Most KK rotary mowers come with instructions in the manual on how to assemble as either 3pt lift, or drag setup, using provided components.

That said.. if your terain is that uneven.. sounds like there may be deck/driveline contact, or driveling angle problems no?

Soundguy

JerryG · Mar 28, 2005

That said.. if your terrain is that uneven.. sounds like there may be deck/driveline contact, or driveling angle problems no? 
Some of the terrain is that bad. Everything is aligned perfectly and there is no drive line angle problem. I don't want and can't use a drag mower is some places. I replaced the third arm with a chain, about 3 years or so ago. That has eliminated all of my problems.

DaMadman · Mar 28, 2005

Henro I have had a Small tractor almost walk over on me while PLOWING with a moldboard plow and got hung on a root.

Now I know that the plow was below the axle because it was buried in the ground. just putt-putting along and the plow hung on a root and the root did not break loose and the tractor tries to walk over backwards. a Jump on the clutch (as said by another posted) stopped this immediately, but if someone (ME) wasn't paying attention the tractor would have seriously walked over in a hurry

Soundguy · Mar 28, 2005

( Some of the terrain is that bad. Everything is aligned perfectly and there is no drive line angle problem. I don't want and can't use a drag mower is some places. I replaced the third arm with a chain, about 3 years or so ago. That has eliminated all of my problems )

I can understand not wanta drag mower due to some 'backing up' issues.. i don't blame you.. that's why i looked around and got a 3pt 10' mower rather than a drag.

Have you considered adding a piece of pipe to that chain toplink.. even if it is only half or 2/3's the length of the chain? in a backflip, it will allow more movement than a sloid one.. but may tighten up enough at some point to do some good before rops come into play..

Good luck.. safe mowing.

Soundguy

GerardC · Mar 28, 2005

Sure the machine will surely pull more going forward, but I have pulled entire trees the length of my property this way. 

Do you mean quantity or power wise. Reverse is a more powerful gear than forward (torque).

JerryG · Mar 29, 2005

Have you considered adding a piece of pipe to that chain toplink.. even if it is only half or 2/3's the length of the chain? in a backflip, it will allow more movement than a sloid one.. but may tighten up enough at some point to do some good before rops come into play..
No, the chain will work just fine.