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[Sawyer Rob]

My dad used old oil for bar oil, when I switched to all bar oil, our chains started lasting longer and even my dad could see that. lol

I mean, bar oil is only 5 bucks a gallon, so I buy it and I think it's worth it...

SR

 

[Skeans1]

But I do not buy bar and chain oil either. It is supposed to save wear on a bar, but bars still wear out when using itt. I use old engine oil, old vegetable oil, anything I can get for free or very cheap (if I have to buy oil).

What bar and chain oil costs, is far more than what a bar is worth. I use junk oil and still get 150-200 cords per bar. Why would I spend 10 times more on special bar and chain oil to get an extra 50 cords on a $40 bar. It just does not make any sense. Besides, how else would I get rid of my old engine oil? (LOL)

That’s not a very good life, when I was hand falling all the time a few of my bars would last a couple of power heads. About once a year the power heads would get replaced the top ends about every six months. 200 cords is about 307k of board feet which doesn’t take long to put down depending on timber size and scale if it’s Scribner C it takes a good amount longer then International or Doyle. If we’re cutting 65 year old Doug fir 28” on down to about 20” it takes about two days with the harvester to make that sort of footage which means it’s about 3000 cuts roughly if we were going through bars that fast you’re not gaining anything.

 

[Skeans1]

That's part of what stopped me from greasing. I heard the same thing from a manufacturer's rep and a GOL/LEAP instructor: "IF you are not going to grease the tip, then NEVER do it. If you are going to grease the tip, do it often." They both explained that once you grease the tip, you are committed. You need to keep greasing. When the grease warms up it expands, coming out of the tip a bit. Dirt and sawdust stick to the exposed grease. When it cools and contracts, it pulls some of that grit back into the bearings. You need to flush that grit out by pumping in more grease.

After hearing that, I never greased a bar again

There’s some truth there but most grease will get broke down by most bar oils. Which manufacture rep was it out of curiosity?

GOL is a whole another subject that honestly bugs me lets put in shallow faces and back bore everything possible not the safest practice out there.

 

[s219]

I have only owned a couple bars with a proper grease hole in the tip, which lets you shoot grease directly into the bearings. I normally just squirt a few drops of bar oil in the hole when the bar is new and then forget about it.

Personally I would not be too worried about grease in there, as it would be short lived and bar oil can break down grease pretty easily if there was concern about any caking or accumulation.

And as far as the grease and grit, well, bar oil is not much better in that regard. Once an oil is formulated to be tacky, it's going to be a magnet for particles. I've use some bar oils and way oils that are tacky enough to be like glue when it comes to dust and grit.

Chainsaws are an interesting combination of high tolerance moving parts, lubrication, and contamination. It is what it is. Can't remember the last time I had a serious problem with any of that, and I use my chainsaws hard. But I am also serious about keeping the saws in top cutting condition.

 

[Oldpath05]

From memory it made about 180 of good logs with the rest getting busted all to (fill in the blank). Thatç—´ not that bad of wedging if theyæ±*e too bad I値l put the jacks in the back before the face goes in or throw some wedges in before the face comes out to aid in the correct placement. Then thereç—´ a few other ways to get stuff to move around like a sizwheel and Dutchman to swing or pull the tree on the stump.

You need to translate that in Yankee terms... Whats this Batman utility belt you have on with all the jingle jangles, buy it somewhere? Post a picture of it all loaded up for tree falling and picture of the jacks you mention, almost sounds like you do this for a living.

 

[Oldpath05]

Most of the time square is used when falling timber out in the PNW its a more efficient cutter allowing us to use either a smaller saw with a longer bar.View attachment 651551
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These are square ground straight off my pro sharp grinder.

Gee I dont think I'd like a square sharpen chain, I think saw chains cut better when sharpened with slight hook, when chain cuts better then thats what I'd want on a small saw like my Ehco 501 and 550xp then adjust the cut speed by the rakers and tooth top angle to chainsaw hp. I do sometimes in muddy wood square up the top angle a little but not the front cut angle, always a hook.

 

[4570Man]

But I do not buy bar and chain oil either. It is supposed to save wear on a bar, but bars still wear out when using itt. I use old engine oil, old vegetable oil, anything I can get for free or very cheap (if I have to buy oil).

What bar and chain oil costs, is far more than what a bar is worth. I use junk oil and still get 150-200 cords per bar. Why would I spend 10 times more on special bar and chain oil to get an extra 50 cords on a $40 bar. It just does not make any sense. Besides, how else would I get rid of my old engine oil? (LOL)

I agree with the logic although I don’t run waste oil because it’s nasty. I do use up whatever oil I have laying around. But the supply of that isn’t very much and for the most part I use the $5 a gallon bar oil.

 

[Oldpath05]

My dad used old oil for bar oil, when I switched to all bar oil, our chains started lasting longer and even my dad could see that. lol

I mean, bar oil is only 5 bucks a gallon, so I buy it and I think it's worth it...

SR

We need to stay in this decade on buying bar oil. I think 40 years ago used motor oil was better than todays used 5W30 used oil, but I'm getting to like used tractor trans oil, still have over 5 gal to use.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-SAE-30-Bar-and-Chain-Oil-1-Gallon-Bottle/16795133

 

[Oldpath05]

I agree with the logic although I don’t run waste oil because it’s nasty. I do use up whatever oil I have laying around. But the supply of that isn’t very much and for the most part I use the $5 a gallon bar oil.

I havent seen $5.00 bar oil in 30 years...............

 

[Oldpath05]

After reading all the input on greasing bar tips I made a final decision to grease and not grease, after gathering all the facts I love finally coming to a final decision finally....
On that note how many change the rim sprocket when needed???????????