Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend

   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #21  
Not to mention where most of those trailer tires are manufactured.

I have a new Sure-Trac 17K deckover tilt trailer and every piece on the thing is Chinese except for the welding and the wood deck.

Sad Fred
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #22  
Did you use tubeless tires with a tube ? When loaded heavy and not too much air in them, the tube can rub against the tire which heats them to the point of failure.

Also, small diameter wheels that fit snug over the brake hub are sensitive to overload because there is little air gap to cool the drum to, so the wheel is heated
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #23  
I am in the marine business part time and pull over 10,000 miles a year. I flat refuse to hook upto anything that does not have Radial Trailer Tires. No LT or Bias for me. Far too many problems.

When replacing, maybe 10 sets a year, we only use Greenball and a occasional Maxxis.

Chris
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #24  
Chis... what do you think accounts for all the old heavy duty 10 and 12 ply tube type tires lasting decades.

A friend manages the fleet for a local utility and seldom to ever has to buy trailer tires for the pole trailers or cable trailers... some are over 25 years and going strong.

My Model A's and T's have tires I bought in the 70's and never have had an issue... tube type bias ply.
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #25  
Chis... what do you think accounts for all the old heavy duty 10 and 12 ply tube type tires lasting decades.

A friend manages the fleet for a local utility and seldom to ever has to buy trailer tires for the pole trailers or cable trailers... some are over 25 years and going strong.

My Model A's and T's have tires I bought in the 70's and never have had an issue... tube type bias ply.

Synthetic rubber. There is very little real rubber used in tires nowadays.
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend
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I am in the marine business part time and pull over 10,000 miles a year. I flat refuse to hook upto anything that does not have Radial Trailer Tires. No LT or Bias for me. Far too many problems.

When replacing, maybe 10 sets a year, we only use Greenball and a occasional Maxxis.

Chris

Greenball imports both the Towmaster and the Transmaster trailer tires. The Transmaster brand has the ST185/80R 13" that better fits my weight requirements. All the positive comments I have read are for the Towmaster brand, anyone have experience with the Transmaster?
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #27  
Chis... what do you think accounts for all the old heavy duty 10 and 12 ply tube type tires lasting decades.

A friend manages the fleet for a local utility and seldom to ever has to buy trailer tires for the pole trailers or cable trailers... some are over 25 years and going strong.

My Model A's and T's have tires I bought in the 70's and never have had an issue... tube type bias ply.
Non EPA days. Rubber was made of good stuff!

Chris
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #28  
Some of my old tires are 100% nylon... for those to young to remember they held up well but the trade off was the would get flat spots from sitting overnight until driven...


The 57 Ford would sit for for months sometimes and it would always go bump, bump down the road for a couple of blocks...
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #29  
Just replaced the tires on my open frame car hauler last year. Originals were 9 years old. Was getting ready for a short haul and noticed one was about to go so I put the spare on that had never been on the ground. Found some mounted on rims on Amazon for about what replacement tires would cost and ordered 5 of them. All were/are bias ply trailer tires. Just put a 1000 miles on the new ones and they went down the road with no issues.
 
   / Trailer Tire Failure - Not a good way tho start the weekend #30  
Yesterday on the interstate, driving to the lake to enjoy the day on the water, I had a catastrophic failure of the drivers side tire on my double PWC single axle trailer. Not any fun at 65MPH but fortunately I was pulling it with my truck and not the SUV, I was miles from an exit and could not get completely off the shoulder as there was a 20' sound barrier. The real experience was changing the tire while cars were passing within a few feet at 70+mph, unbelievable todays drivers would risk killing someone because they are to stupid or distracted to change lanes. Fortunately a state trooper was kind enough to pull behind and put his vehicle between me and traffic, even with his lights on several cars refused to change lanes and came within a couple feet of hitting him. IDIOTS - Now on to my questions:

I bought these tires brand new 5-years ago, my loaded trailer weighs 3000lbs and I had checked the tire pressure maybe an hour before the blow-out occurred. Max pressure is 65psi cold and both tires where at 61psi and I didn't add any air. Tires maybe had 2000 miles on them and trailer is always store under cover and I park on 2x6 to keep the tires off the dirt.

- Worst case I was 200lb below max load, I really believe I was closer to 500lbs below but I will need to weigh the trailer to be sure. Would being 4psi below max pressure cause a blow-out?

- After putting on the spare I drove another 30 miles to the lake and felt the tires, the newer radial was uncomfortably hot to the touch while the OLD bias spare was notable cooler, is this normal?

- What is my solution? Do I need to consider larger wheels with heavier ratings or are there better brands I should buy?

Kenda Karrier ST175/80R13 Radial Trailer Tire w/ 13" White Mini Mod Wheel - 5 on 4-1/2
Tire capacity:◦Load range: D
◦Ply rating: 8
◦Maximum load: 1,610 lbs at 65 psi

I used 13" tires off a Honda instead of the crappy 'trailer tires' that were on it.. Load C, Temp A, 1050 @ 44psi. Dual axle so can handle 4000lbs @ 44psi. Never a problem. While you will find trailer tires rated at a 'higher' load, I have found that the good ones are really expensive, and the cheap ones blow out easily.
 

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