Trencher and poorboys stump grinder

   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder
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#51  
An update on the original posting of this implement.
Dragged the trencher out of the back forty and cleaned it up a little. Added some new bolts to places where the bolts had been bent or were rusted excessively. Since the JD 2555 is so much larger than the little Ford 1100 that it was last used on, (and built for) I modified a top link to extend the top link further out, allowing the guard to sit level. I sharpened the teeth, straightened two that were bent and tried to locate a U-joint to replace one that wasn't quite right. Not being able to locate a direct replacement U-joint, I opted to change out the whole shaft with another. A bushing in the gearbox end of the shaft reduced it from 1.5" to 1" diameter, and a quick run thru the bandsaw to correct the lenght was pretty much it. I purchased some grade 5 bolts to use as shear pins, but forgot to take them with me when I drove the tractor to a friends house, where the trencher was going to be used. (And actually was the last place it was used before, when I owned that house). A 5/16" grade 8 bolt was installed as a shear pin, which lasted about two feet. Since I had NEVER had a shear pin problem with the trencher, this was a complete surprise! New shear pin, softer engagement of the pto lever, and another two feet before shearing that bolt. Ran out of available 5/16" bolts, and we discussed going up a size or two. Since the shaft had a 1/2" hole in it, we discussed that, but decide that a half inch hole in a one inch shaft wouldn't leave enough "meat" in the shaft and would problably break the shaft. So we decided on a 7/16" pin. Buddy grabbed the drill, I held the shaft steady, and he drilled it 1/2", which surprised me and confused him, as he thought I said do it anyway. No biggy, so we put a 1/2" grade 5 pin in it and tried it again. 3 feet later, the shaft on the gearbox broke, as expected so we put it away for the day.
What confuses me, is why, as this thing worked great behind a 13hp Ford tractor and won't do squat behind a 70 hp tractor. I wonder if the ground speed increase behind the John Deere and keeping the engine near idle to keep ground speed slow is causing the trencher to load up, compared to the slower moving Ford that I kept the engine at pto speeds to give the gearbox and spinning wheel more speed. Whatever it is, it sure didn't act like it used to, and basically didn't do the job required of it today. Something has got to be different, but I can't figure out what.
Any thoughts?
David from jax
 
   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder #52  
If you go back and read your original post #1 you will see that you started having shear pin problems way back then running it on the smaller tractor.
 
   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder
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#53  
Memory must be going, but I know I have never had any shear pin problems nearly as bad as what it is currently experiencing. I just sharpened the blades too and running in dirt, not concrete. The durn thing has been known to cut thru a buried concrete block and never slow down, so why is it acting this way? It has been used as a stump grinder more than a trencher which is a lot harder on shear pins.
I am currently building a blade to drop in the ground to cut whatever is in the way, and then return on the same path to pull pipe thru it. When I get done with that, and all of the other pressing problems, I may go back to the stump grinder and do some modifications, to eliminate the shear pin with a belt drive or a slip clutch. I am leaning towards the belt drive so I can adjust the speed of the wheel faster at a lesser motor rpm to limit the speed of the tractor and still keep the cutters turning fast enough to cut what gets in the way.
David from jax
 
   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder #54  
What a wonderful machine. I would think that you could SELL this design/patent to a mass producer and get very wealthy. And the rest of us might be able to afford a very nice creation.
Thanks for sharing.:thumbsup:
 
   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder #55  
What a wonderful machine. I would think that you could SELL this design/patent to a mass producer and get very wealthy. And the rest of us might be able to afford a very nice creation.
Thanks for sharing.:thumbsup:

I'm not saying the subject machine wont take out a stump :D.....but I would like to see a picture of the operation when it ground one out. ;) I can certainly see it cutting a slot in the earth tho...

To me....that wheel would not last long for stump grinding. :confused::confused2:
 
   / Trencher and poorboys stump grinder #56  
As mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, there's an inexpensive Chinese-made trencher implement available:

Bolton Power Equipment USA....Trencher

It is different from Sandman's design and could not double as a poor man's stump grinder for sure because of the tiller tines. Sandman's appears to be a more robust implement.

Does anyone have one of these Chinese trenchers? If so, how has it held up?
 
 

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