Truck rant. And don't know what to do.

[Dftodd]

That makes perfect sense to me... why would you want to climb back onto cheap vinyl after crawling around in the mud?
Although it seems like velour would be better... That's what I want in the back seat for my dog to climb into.

Makes as much sense as putting carpeting in trucks

Don't get me wrong. I really like the heated/cooled leather seats in my truck. But really would love to have vinyl instead of the carpeting.

 

[Jstpssng]

Makes as much sense as putting carpeting in trucks

Don't get me wrong. I really like the heated/cooled leather seats in my truck. But really would love to have vinyl instead of the carpeting.

I do prefer carpeting, as it tends to breathe better. Water doesn't get trapped against the floorboards as easily, slowing the rust disease, and the truck doesn't smell as badly.

I also have rubber mats to keep most of the dirt, snow and water off the carpet.

 

[greggyy]

We have different types of trucks down here, Jap ones mainly now as ford and GM went by by, but they all are 1 tonne plus, I cannot work out how you have such huge utes, but many are half ton....that is nothing.

Anyway, no carpet in real utes, I do not like getting of the tractor and having mud and dung on the boots then go into something with carpet....heck no ! That is wrong. Carpet is for office workers I thought ? or the dual cab weekend warriors ?

 

[Tomtint]

I have a few trucks now..Had probably 50over the last 30 years. Is there one thats a do everything perfect truck...Probably not. I think they will all have quirks and problems at some point. I had a really nice 17 F350 platinum diesel that I thought I would keep forever..But the sunroof leaked, made the interior smell musty and no matter how much I tried to clean and dry it..it still smelled so I got rid of it. Outside of that it was perfect. Buying used is a crap shoot. People get rid of cars for a reason,,and not knowing that reason is the gamble. If I were to buy used, I would probably look to a used lease return, Brand wise, today, I would look at the Fords and maybe the Toyota.

 

[Tomtint]

Makes as much sense as putting carpeting in trucks

Don't get me wrong. I really like the heated/cooled leather seats in my truck. But really would love to have vinyl instead of the carpeting.

I bought a new F450 Limited..It had a vinyl floor...I had it swapped out to carpet.

 

[greggyy]

Don't mind if I borrow it for a few days do you ? It may come back broken, it will def smell different ! he he

 

[N80]

Cheap carpet is as good as vinyl. Easy to clean. But, I have Weather Tech liners in my Nissan anyway. In the old Ford, the oem carpeted floor mats are still in it. I don't even wipe the mud or cow poop off my boots when I get in. The underside of the truck is literally covered in cow poop. I don't own cows but to get to the back half of my property I drive across my brother-in-laws pasture. Getting all the cow manure out of the way was one of the worst parts of replacing the fuel pump.

As far as buying used I have had really good luck over the years. Some great I have probably bought more used than new. It can be a crap shoot but on a low mile used car you skip that initial depreciation and if you know what to look for and do your research you can come out on top. Apparently with this Nissan my luck caught up with me.

My wife reminds me that I whined and complained about the Ford from day one and I still have it. So I might still be driving this Nissan 10 years from now.

 

[Grumpycat]

I think you are discounting the Ford EcoBoost engines. The 3.5L EB has had issues with cam phaser wear. Can't help think it is a oil issue but people go off the deep end when their engine needs internal surgery and don't make sense. They can't understand how "full synthetic" is not a motor oil performance specification. "I used full synthetic and my engine failed! Ford is crap!" Ford has a very specific WSS specification for motor oil, several different WSS across their line of engines.

The 2.7EB has been a delight. Oddly it is the most peppy of all F-150s at non-hooligan speeds. Better than the 5.0L Coyote or 3.5EB.

Oddly Ford will not rate a 2.7EB to tow the same as they rated lesser HP 3.5EB in the past.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I think you are discounting the Ford EcoBoost engines. The 3.5L EB has had issues with cam phaser wear. Can't help think it is a oil issue but people go off the deep end when their engine needs internal surgery and don't make sense. They can't understand how "full synthetic" is not a motor oil performance specification. "I used full synthetic and my engine failed! Ford is crap!" Ford has a very specific WSS specification for motor oil, several different WSS across their line of engines.

The 2.7EB has been a delight. Oddly it is the most peppy of all F-150s at non-hooligan speeds. Better than the 5.0L Coyote or 3.5EB.

Oddly Ford will not rate a 2.7EB to tow the same as they rated lesser HP 3.5EB in the past.

If I recall automotive lore, Ford started the 3.5L ecoboost by taking a Mazda 3.0L diesel design, stroking it, gasifying it, slapping Warner turbos on it, and keeping the over-built lower end. The problems with the original engine (which I have the first year of in my truck) was timing chain stretch in 2011 (fixed in 2012 and anybody who got OEM work done on their 2011), phasers wearing and sticking, the timing chain guide wear from flopping timing chains, the gasket failing on the fuel pump thereby allowing the fuel pump to fill the block with fuel (whoops), carbon build-up on the backside of the intake valves from a lack of fuel washing the intake valves off, and slugging the engine with water from the intercooler, hydrolocking the engine and blowing a rod threw the block.

When we first heard about the slugging problem, over on the F150 forums back in 2011, I suggested everybody drill a 16th in hole at the bottom left of their intercooler as all turbo engine from before tree-huggers cared and racing engines have bleed holes in their intercoolers to blow water vapor out the bottom so as to not slug the engine with water under the right conditions. Ford cannot drill holes because of environmental concerns, but we can.

In my case, I added a big catch can and rerouted all of the engine's crankcase vent to that rather than dumping those gasses back into the intake, thereby limiting the carbon on the intake valves issue.

In 2018 Ford redesigned the 3.5 completely solving the original problems.

Anyway, the 2.7L I believe is a complete copy of the new 3.5L except it has a smaller, lighter block. Because of the lighter weight block somewhere somebody thought that it should not be rated the same as the 3.5L and (even if it is the same block as the larger 3.5L), I'm guessing for marketing reasons likely held the big tow numbers off for the 3.5L.

Anyway, my prone-to-explode (not really) original ecoboost 3.5L has been a real workhorse in my F150 and I'd be tickled pink to have another—especially since I know how to mitigate the flaws of the original design and the redesign is turning out to be claw-hammer reliable.

 

[aczlan]

If I recall automotive lore, Ford started the 3.5L ecoboost by taking a Mazda 3.0L diesel design, stroking it, gasifying it, slapping Warner turbos on it, and keeping the over-built lower end. The problems with the original engine (which I have the first year of in my truck) was timing chain stretch in 2011 (fixed in 2012 and anybody who got OEM work done on their 2011), phasers wearing and sticking, the timing chain guide wear from flopping timing chains, the gasket failing on the fuel pump thereby allowing the fuel pump to fill the block with fuel (whoops), carbon build-up on the backside of the intake valves from a lack of fuel washing the intake valves off, and slugging the engine with water from the intercooler, hydrolocking the engine and blowing a rod threw the block.

When we first heard about the slugging problem, over on the F150 forums back in 2011, I suggested everybody drill a 16th in hole at the bottom left of their intercooler as all turbo engine from before tree-huggers cared and racing engines have bleed holes in their intercoolers to blow water vapor out the bottom so as to not slug the engine with water under the right conditions. Ford cannot drill holes because of environmental concerns, but we can.

In my case, I added a big catch can and rerouted all of the engine's crankcase vent to that rather than dumping those gasses back into the intake, thereby limiting the carbon on the intake valves issue.

In 2018 Ford redesigned the 3.5 completely solving the original problems.

Anyway, the 2.7L I believe is a complete copy of the new 3.5L except it has a smaller, lighter block. Because of the lighter weight block somewhere somebody thought that it should not be rated the same as the 3.5L and (even if it is the same block as the larger 3.5L), I'm guessing for marketing reasons likely held the big tow numbers off for the 3.5L.

Anyway, my prone-to-explode (not really) original ecoboost 3.5L has been a real workhorse in my F150 and I'd be tickled pink to have another—especially since I know how to mitigate the flaws of the original design and the redesign is turning out to be claw-hammer reliable.

IIRC, the 2.7L and the new 3.0L EcoBoosts have CGI blocks like the 6.7L diesel.
The 3.5L EcoBoost had/has a "normal" block.

Aaron Z