Two way log splitters

[cmhyland]

I have the 13 ton unit from Northern. It has worked great for me... I have run about 6 cord through it so far and haven't found any issues with it.

I have attached some urls for vids of my splitter. I run my tractor just above idle.... If I run the idle up to 2K rpm the cycle time for one direction is about 5 seconds... At idle it's about 8 seconds. My tractor is rated for 5 GPM.

VID 20111015 00002 - YouTube

VID-20111012-00000.3GP - YouTube

 

[KennyG]

I have the 13 ton unit from Northern. It has worked great for me... I have run about 6 cord through it so far and haven't found any issues with it.

I have attached some urls for vids of my splitter. I run my tractor just above idle.... If I run the idle up to 2K rpm the cycle time for one direction is about 5 seconds... At idle it's about 8 seconds. My tractor is rated for 5 GPM.

I've got the same unit as you. Mine runs a little slower because I've only got half the gpm but it's still about right for me. I'm pretty old but that 28 second stroke mentioned above would drive me nuts. Some people complain about the max log length of 19" on the 13 ton model but my stove takes a maximum of 16" wood so it all works for me.

On yours, the hydraulic hoses look a little awkward. On mine, I routed the two additional tractor hookup hoses through the holes for the cylinder hoses and tie wrapped them to the hoses running under the cylinder to keep them out of the way. That way, nothing is exposed behind the three point arms.

 

[cmhyland]

I've got the same unit as you. Mine runs a little slower because I've only got half the gpm but it's still about right for me. I'm pretty old but that 28 second stroke mentioned above would drive me nuts. Some people complain about the max log length of 19" on the 13 ton model but my stove takes a maximum of 16" wood so it all works for me.

On yours, the hydraulic hoses look a little awkward. On mine, I routed the two additional tractor hookup hoses through the holes for the cylinder hoses and tie wrapped them to the hoses running under the cylinder to keep them out of the way. That way, nothing is exposed behind the three point arms.

Kenny,

In the B2910 there is a rear Power Beyond block that can be installed. That is what I did but the hoses need to be connected to each other to maintain an open-center system. When not in use they are looped behind the seat and you can't even see them.

I use velcro straps to manage the hoses now when the splitter is attached. The first video was done within 10 minutes of first attaching the splitter to the tractor so hoses were just hanging....

On thing you have to make sure of is that your quick connects are not restricting flow. I have 1/4 in hoses that will support 5gpm, my tractor is 5gpm, but the first connectors I bought were 3.5 gpm. So I went to larger connectors...

Regards,
Chris

 

[greg_g]

I see a problem here that needs clarification from the OP. He started asking about gasoline powered splitters, and somehow - me included - got off into three point hitch splitters. This is important, because only the independently powered splitters have the 2-way valves. The three point hitch models only have a one way valve.

So I need to ask the OP to set us straight. Are we still talking about an independently powered (gasoline) splitter? or have we moved on to 3PH splitters?

//greg//

 

[cmhyland]

I see a problem here that needs clarification from the OP. He started asking about gasoline powered splitters, and somehow - me included - got off into three point hitch splitters. This is important, because only the independently powered splitters have the 2-way valves. The three point hitch models only have a one way valve.

So I need to ask the OP to set us straight. Are we still talking about an independently powered (gasoline) splitter? or have we moved on to 3PH splitters?

//greg//

Greg,


From the OP:
"Both Northern and Dr offer a two way 3pt log splitter that is supposed to run on less than 11 gpm. Supposed to be super fast since there is no return.
Has anyone used one and do they work as advertised? Ends up about $800+ with shipping."


Regards,
Chris
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[KennyG]

I see a problem here that needs clarification from the OP. He started asking about gasoline powered splitters, and somehow - me included - got off into three point hitch splitters. This is important, because only the independently powered splitters have the 2-way valves. The three point hitch models only have a one way valve.



//greg//

This confuses me. My 3PH splitter has an open center 2 way valve, otherwise it couldn't retract. The only difference between the one way and two way splitters is that the one way splitters generally have a detent feature (moves without holding the valve) while two way models do not. You can replace the valve on a two way with a detent and some people do this, but they don't come with them, supposedly because of safety concerns.

 

[greg_g]

Greg,


From the OP:
"Both Northern and Dr offer a two way 3pt log splitter that is supposed to run on less than 11 gpm. Supposed to be super fast since there is no return.
Has anyone used one and do they work as advertised? Ends up about $800+ with shipping."


Regards,
Chris
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Ok, I think I see where I went wrong. By two-way he must have meant horizontal and vertical. I was thinking two stage - as in hydraulics. The TPH models are one stage, the tow-behind models are two stage. My bad

//greg//

 

[cmhyland]

If you take a look at the videos I've posted it will be clear... He's asking about splitters that split it both directions. The wedge moves back and forth against plates on each end.

I have found no need personally for splitter that will spit horizontal and vertical because I just lower the splitter down to the ground and put heavy logs on and raise back up to comfortable working levels.

 

[greg_g]

If you take a look at the videos I've posted it will be clear... He's asking about splitters that split it both directions. The wedge moves back and forth against plates on each end.

Ok, then maybe I read it wrong twice. Probably best if I just sit back and see how this shakes out. Regardless, the part about a 13 ton model being most appropriate for CK20 hydraulics remains valid.

//greg//

 

[Gil Case]

Sorry for the confusion, I was talking about 3 pt splitters that go in both directions. My dilemma now is that I am restricted to 20" with the two way splitter (13 ton) but I can get 26" splitting length with a 3 pt one way splitter such as the Speeco that TSC sells. That splitter also happens to run vertical and horizontal. That is not the point of this discussion, it was what can I run on my little Kioti with 7.66 gpm and since a one way i.e. Speeco was going to be way too slow, should I go to the two way to gain speed.
I have enjoyed the discussion and learned what I need to know. Which is I can run a two way if it is 13 ton and a one way 16 ton, but it will be slow.
Thank you all for the help- my decision now is????