Unsecured hay hauling

[Tailbent]

I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

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I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

 

[Tailbent]

I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

This would be a better site if pejoratives were not used

I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

This would be better thread if the pejoratives were left off and the discussion was about traffic safety. The comment about rednecks being a safety hazard was totally inappropriate and deserves a retraction or apology. This is a great website. Why don't we keep it civil.

 

[repete]

In Washington State you can license a truck for farm use, they are given a "Q" license. They give you a certain radius of use rom the farm.
It is not unusual to get pulled over for an inspection by State Patrol inspectors. When they see the "Q" they say "Oh, you are licensed for farm use, we do not inspect those". I request an inspection regardless and they are more than nice about performing a "courtesy" inspection. There was a time when the air brakes were out of adjustment and the inspector said "If you were a commercial truck I would have you park it and it would not move till it was fixed." Since I was only a mile from my destination, he sent me on my way and said to get it fixed before it is on the road again, which I more than willingly did.
I do not think farm trucks are less deadly because they are for farm use.

 

[zdman]

As a small farmer who raises cattle and some hay I always secure my load, the exception being if I am hauling on my own property or between them which puts me on a small county road for a few hundred yards at most. Equipment or hay on trailers going any distance is always secured. That being said, a well secured hay load driven over rough county roads can shift so please be careful if you are behind someone. They may have had a strap shift and not even know it. Police here typically leave farmers alone unless something looks really dangerous. People who are not raised in rural,areas often have no respect for farmers moving equipment on roads - they just want them the hell out of their way and will sometimes do stupid things to get around them. Please understand that farmers sometimes have to drive equipment on roads even if it interrupts traffic for a while. Having worked for years in a metro area, I can tell you I have seen more unsecured or poorly secured loads in trucks and trailers than I have seen in rural areas where farmers work.

 

[John0829]

People who are not raised in rural,areas often have no respect for farmers moving equipment on roads - they just want them the hell out of their way and will sometimes do stupid things to get around them.

Not just farmers also anyone not driving fast enough to suit them, many is the time I have been passed on hills, curves or with on coming traffic simply because I was not going 5 or 10 mph over the limit.

 

[BigBlue1]

This would be a better site if pejoratives were not used

This would be better thread if the pejoratives were left off and the discussion was about traffic safety. The comment about rednecks being a safety hazard was totally inappropriate and deserves a retraction or apology. This is a great website. Why don't we keep it civil.

I think a world where nobody can ever offend anybody else would be pretty boring. I see you only have 5 posts here. Give it time and you'll realize it's all in good fun (well, mostly). Or are you a person who moves into a new town and immediately starts telling the neighbors to clean up their lawns?

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

You never tied down your skid steer? It must not be worth much.

It was just maybe two years old. Hauled it from key west Florida to dekalb tx with nary a strap on it. But it was in a dump trailer so nobody could see over in it. Some ole drunk gal pulled out in front of me on 220 in bossier city, like to been El accidente' going on. Usually if we are on state trooper roads we tie.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Is part of it your equipment? We haul a lot of hay around on trailers built for large rounds, need to dump the entire trailer to lose a bale. But when we sell by the semi load, truckers strap them down. Our trailers handle 11 4' x 6' bales but that doesn't go far with 3,000 head.

It was a round the clock deal to keep them plenty of nutrition to handle the cold. We did it. The farthest place I couldn't mix for them so I put 16 mineral tubs in The barn. Two pallets of feed in troughs.

 

[big bubba]

This would be a better site if pejoratives were not used

This would be better thread if the pejoratives were left off and the discussion was about traffic safety. The comment about rednecks being a safety hazard was totally inappropriate and deserves a retraction or apology. This is a great website. Why don't we keep it civil.

okie dokey, guess all humor should be scrutinized these days given our culture wars...surely you didn't think i was serious?
apologize for any offense taken, beat regards
also, welcome to the forum compadre

 

[lman]

Sounds good Bubba.

 

[coobie]

Cute little dig on farmers, but I’ve seen more unsecured zero turns and improperly secured construction equipment on trucks & trailers in my area than unsecured hay bales.
Way more.
Buddy of mine is an MVCE cop and they fill the coffers with citations written to working stiffs pulling zero turns behind an F-150 a lot more than farm truck violations.

Good post ..There is always a AZZ hat in the crowd that get off on little digs..

 

[Sberry]

I know some farmers shouldnt be on the hiway in anything more than a passenger car. Here they did away with truck inspections for farmers.
There are enough incidents without trying, **** happens, we try to keep it to a minimum. We lost a tool on a truck the other night. Not really sure what happened to it yet.

 

[aspg4]

I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

Here is your Arkansas answer for securing hay. Go to www.ahtd.state.ar.us Click on publications and scroll down to Motor Vehicle and Traffic laws & state highway commission regulations ( ACT 300) The Act 300 book is considered the "Bible" for enforcing the traffic laws in Arkansas. In the book go to page 324 and look at statute 27-35-110 and also page 322 statute 27-35-102 (b). It says nothing about hauling hay, but does state that everything must be loaded to keep any of the load from spilling on the roadway.

 

[big bubba]

Here is your Arkansas answer for securing hay. Go to www.ahtd.state.ar.us Click on publications and scroll down to Motor Vehicle and Traffic laws & state highway commission regulations ( ACT 300) The Act 300 book is considered the "Bible" for enforcing the traffic laws in Arkansas. In the book go to page 324 and look at statute 27-35-110 and also page 322 statute 27-35-102 (b). It says nothing about hauling hay, but does state that everything must be loaded to keep any of the load from spilling on the roadway.

thank you, you're more informed than i am on this, & appreciate your way to approach the issue. would be interesting to hear from law enforcement on this overall, thx again

 

[Ken]

thank you, you're more informed than i am on this, & appreciate your way to approach the issue. would be interesting to hear from law enforcement on this overall, thx again

Been living close to or at this location since 1949 and at that time maybe 20 cars a day was a busy day.
today after Big Bubba mentioning hay moving without tie straps.every trailer attached to pick up to 18 wheelers loaded without straps. saw 2 long trailers pulled by chevy truck had the last 2 bales tie strap. to keep the load from rolling off. There were about 20 trucks and an hour.
The road was widened a few years ago and now is a major shortcut to bypass the Clinton to Damascus speed traps well known to travelers through this area.
This county road speed limit was 45 and the new county Judge raises it to 55 mph and the state highway lowered it to 45 mph. so log trucks and everyone trying to complete their work schedule come this way .
But Big Bubba is correct no one uses straps.

 

[Martin Roper]

I travel a narrow 2 lane State highway in Arkansas 3-4 times weekly to my rural place in Ozarks. it's a busy highway w/o shoulders & blind curves.
lots of round bale hauling without any securing, they say gravity will do the job...that is until control is lost around a curve to oncoming traffic
& would make short work of me, etc. local law enforcement shrug it off like the haulers. so what are your state hwy laws on hauling unsecured tonnage on similar roads in your area. to be honest, it is annoying to see, but hey, don't like to offend the red necks (another safety hazard)

In the UK all loads must be secured, a lot are not and until the worst happens it is likely that no one will be prosecuted. It is always a bind (excuse the pun) to secure a load especially for short distances but the inconvenience of a load coming off or having to live with the fact that some one has been injured ( or worse ) because you couldn't be bothered is on your conscience.

 

[Jstpssng]

In the UK all loads must be secured, a lot are not and until the worst happens it is likely that no one will be prosecuted. It is always a bind (excuse the pun) to secure a load especially for short distances but the inconvenience of a load coming off or having to live with the fact that some one has been injured ( or worse ) because you couldn't be bothered is on your conscience.

Some people don’t care. A trucker here was going through town years ago with an overloaded log trailer when a log hit a bridge and fell off, killing a woman. Yet he still runs grossly overloaded. I won’t use him, but that doesn’t stop most people from calling him.

 

[Hay Dude]

My cop buddy and I both agree that over the years, when there’s an accident and between a trucker and a passenger car, 9 times out of 10, the trucker gets blamed. It’s just one of those things you have to accept if you are a trucker.

 

[Martin Roper]

My cop buddy and I both agree that over the years, when there’s an accident and between a trucker and a passenger car, 9 times out of 10, the trucker gets blamed. It’s just one of those things you have to accept if you are a trucker.

My cop buddy and I both agree that over the years, when there’s an accident and between a trucker and a passenger car, 9 times out of 10, the trucker gets blamed. It’s just one of those things you have to accept if you are a trucker.

Tends to be the same with a sports car, sometimes justified.

 

[ljjhouser]

I guess, in retrospect, it doesn't make much difference what the load is. It seems clear that if you have encountered an accident with any unsecured load, you may have a rock hardened opinion about whether or not it is safe and not important. I know if I had lost a car or wife in an accident with unsecured load (could be hay, tractor, zturn, anything), I would attest to the fact that it is important and should never happen. No one could convince me that it was rare and did not matter if the load was secure or not. On the other hand, if we have never been involved or dodged unsecured loads coming off trailers, it might not seem too important or might feel it is rare. But then, this seems to be how issues are resolved - AFTER enough accidents. I don't know - just wondering - do they scale trucks hauling hay? Best Wishes