Update: Video of the Power iMIG 140 E 120 Volt MIG welder from Everlast

[roadhunter]

Thanks for the response. I think it is fair to say that most consumer welders are rated at the limit of their capacity under optimal conditions. Not to draw an absolute parallel, but consumer air compressors are advertised the most extreme way. It is miraculous to put it kindly to claim 6HP+ for a plug in 120 volt machine, since it takes about 750 watts to generate 1 HP and that is *if* the motor is 100% efficient (and they aren't even close to that). So it would take about 37 amps in a 100% efficient motor, assuming my math is right...

There has been some discussion here lately about a new Lincoln 210MP inverter welder, which is rated at a much lower input amperage requirements than the output power would seem to require. That is, well, really creative sales foolishness.

Everlast is putting their best forward, although I must say that their ratings are much more honest, and based on a ratings method that are comparable across manufacturers. That said, I look at welders can do at a 50% duty cycle, because a 10%-20% cycle is just too low IMHO. Just my take on things, but I think pushing a welder at the edge of it's capacity is not a prudent thing to do as far as the welding result unless you are really skilled or there is no reasonable alternative. Just my $.02.

Ok, I will shut up now...

No need to shut up. We as consumers are constantly being misled by manufacturers who make outlandish claims about what they can accomplish. You brought up a good example about electric motors. I used to work for Hilti after college and I remember standing there when they unveiled the new circular saw and told us it has 3 hp and plugged into a 110v outlet. I immediately knew that was bogus.

I believe small engine manufacturers do the same thing on lawnmowers advertising a HP rating that is not actually true.

Nothing wrong with occasionally testing the limits of your equipment. I do it with my tractor all the time lifting until the back tires come off the ground. I can't say I have ever had much of an issue with duty cycle on a welder but I do understand what you mean about not running at the edge of it's capacity all the time.

 

[Arc weld]

I"m not bashing 110 volt MIG welders. They have their purpose on lighter material. I'm just saying that getting full strength welds on 3/8" material with one is very questionable. Why do I say it's questionable? Over 95% of the people who attempted to do a full strength 3/8" bend test failed. Some of these people have considerable welding experience and they still had problems. Considering this is apparently a "hobby and maintenance forum" and many beginners are considering starting off with a 110 volt machine (nothing wrong with that), do you really think it's a good idea to advice them a 110 MIG is a good machine for 3/8" material?

 

[roadhunter]

Back to the OP.


I ran across this video that featured the Everlast 140 last night on you tube. Welding up a trailer hitch with a 120v Everlast mig welder.
Everlast imig 140 1 month review - YouTube

another
EverLast i-mig 140 Dc inverter IBGT - YouTube

 

[downsizingnow48]

Roadhunter great video reference thanks! Mark, if you are interested in doing another demo, maybe try lapping 1/4" bar on to 3/8" bar. Or 1/4" tee'd to 3/8" and welded both sides. Then cut crosswise and examine using the naval jelly procedure that Kuoa referred to a while back. In any case, thanks for putting up this thread.

 

[MossRoad]

And another welding forum thread gets locked.

 

[MossRoad]

I pruned it as best I could of all comments about each other VS comments about machines and process. No notices were sent as there were too many of you that had posts removed due to comments, quotes and other disparaging personal attacks. Please continue the discussion about the original subject that the advertiser posted.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Jody of weldingtipsandtricks just did a rough review of the 140E where he is using it to fab up a downdraft table for a PlasmaCam.

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks! Enjoyed the education. :thumbsup:

 

[dragoneggs]

Jody of weldingtipsandtricks just did a rough review of the 140E where he is using it to fab up a downdraft table for a PlasmaCam. YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Wqsb_vNkc

Yep watched that. Great video as always from Jody!