USED DISC HARROW

[flINTLOCK]

Difficult to find decent used implements in the right size for my smaller plots. Most used farm stuff is too big. Any good used disc harrows out there?? Like the landpride line.

 

[wushaw]

You could always build one if don't find what you want.

 

[CDsdad]

Most of the used ones I saw when searching down here either had worn out bearings or had cracks that had been welded on the frame. That's fine as long as the asking price isn't 75% of what a new one costs. I finally just bought a new one. Couldn't justify paying $300 less for a used on and having to spend $200 to get it back in shape.

If you have any local auctions try them. Occasionally I find stuff at old farm places in the country, too. Only ever found 2 things worth having, but only ever stopped and looked at anything about a 1/2 dozen times.

 

[Glowplug]

You could always build one if don't find what you want.

You're not trying to say you built that thing, are you?

I'd like to find a 7' 3ph disc harrow around 1200-1400# myself. Everyone says to buy used but I'm in the same boat as above. All the used ones seem to be 25 or 30', completely worn out, and cost almost as much as a new one.

 

[wushaw]

You're not trying to say you built that thing, are you?

I'd like to find a 7' 3ph disc harrow around 1200-1400# myself. Everyone says to buy used but I'm in the same boat as above. All the used ones seem to be 25 or 30', completely worn out, and cost almost as much as a new one.

OOOH no not me...here is the thread on it and I also narrowed it down six inches after it was completed....what a pain that was but I wanted it to be a true 5ft disk, I really didn't want to buy anymore parts to fit the frame
It's amazing what having a welder and associated tools can do.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/81139-finally-finished-disk-harrow.html

 

[Farmwithjunk]

You're not trying to say you built that thing, are you?

I'd like to find a 7' 3ph disc harrow around 1200-1400# myself. Everyone says to buy used but I'm in the same boat as above. All the used ones seem to be 25 or 30', completely worn out, and cost almost as much as a new one.

Here's a disc that didn't break the budget. The basic design stayed with the Massey Ferguson line for nearly 30 years. Not only does it do a fantastic job, they seem to be extremely durable too. It's a model #25 MF. The 2 levers change front or rear gang angle on the move. Each gang has a single bolt that can be removed to allow that gang to float independent of the others when on rough ground. They were built in large numbers. Still quite a few left to be found on dealers lots. I paid $400 for this one. That's about average for a #25 disc. This one is the largest of the 3 sizes available. (6', 7-1/2', and 9') They can be cut down if you find a deal on a 9'er. Remove 1 or 2 disc blades and spools per gang, cut down and re-thread the ends of the axles, and you have a smaller model. Most I've seen are 6' or 7-1/2'.

Not only do these sell cheaper than any new disc I know of, they do a much better job. Massey sales literature from the day, nor the manual list's weight, but I'd estimate this 9'er weighs close to 1200lbs.

 

[Glowplug]

Hey, FarmWithJunk, what do you think of this MF disk harrow down at SweetTractors? Is this a model #25? They're asking $895.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Hey, FarmWithJunk, what do you think of this MF disk harrow down at SweetTractors? Is this a model #25? They're asking $895.

From the picture it looks straight and complete. That's a big start. You may find one cheaper, but you'll spend time and effort looking. That's a 7-1/2' model. 6' has 5 blades per gang. 7-1/2' has 6. 9' (Actually 8'-10") has 7 blades per.

 

[Glowplug]

From the picture it looks straight and complete. That's a big start. You may find one cheaper, but you'll spend time and effort looking. That's a 7-1/2' model. 6' has 5 blades per gang. 7-1/2' has 6. 9' (Actually 8'-10") has 7 blades per.

You sure do know your tillage equipment!

 

[Keith_B]

From the picture it looks straight and complete. That's a big start. You may find one cheaper, but you'll spend time and effort looking. That's a 7-1/2' model. 6' has 5 blades per gang. 7-1/2' has 6. 9' (Actually 8'-10") has 7 blades per.

I almost bought one of the Massey's at an auction last spring, it only went for $300, it was a 7 1/2' model and I was worried about it being too much weight for my tractor. I've been using my late FIL's 6 footer.

Those disks are better than most of the new ones on the market today.

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

I've been wanting a disc real badly to go with my two bottom plow for next spring.....

everything i've looked at is well worn, high priced (some not too bad) and the hard type to adjust.....

yesterday, i stopped past an ole' boys place to see what he had......one set for 250 and they weren't too bad......someone did a crappy job welding the 3pt hitch up on but like grandpa says, "poor people have poor ways"

his other set he wanted 500 for and they were a better looking set but the adjustment was still a pain......i wanted something quick........so as i went up the road i thought, "well, i'll just post a thread on TBN for people to show what type of disc they have......." i wanted to see what was available in easy adjustment......

after i drove up the road and stopped by a kubota dealer (no good deals, right??) i noticed a pretty nice looking set of discs on the back of a ford 600 or so.....whoah, it had adjusting handles but i'm sure they didn't work right.....boy was i wrong......the adjustment was VERY easy..... from the lot i called them on my cell phone (the two kids were asleep in the car and i didn't want to leave them).......come to find out, this well built disc was a MF 6'.......they were asking 650 which i didn't think was too bad, being that most hard adjustment ones were just barely less and these looked to be in excellent shape......so, i went home drooling over this particular set of discs....

i started to post a thread on here, but a quick search and ole' farmwithjunk has come through again......now i'm on the look out for a 7 1/2 foot set...i would assume you'd want your discs just a bit wider than your tractor, so you don't get too close to the actual plants...

thanks farmwithjunk, again, and thanks TBN

Here's a disc that didn't break the budget. The basic design stayed with the Massey Ferguson line for nearly 30 years. Not only does it do a fantastic job, they seem to be extremely durable too. It's a model #25 MF. The 2 levers change front or rear gang angle on the move. Each gang has a single bolt that can be removed to allow that gang to float independent of the others when on rough ground. They were built in large numbers. Still quite a few left to be found on dealers lots. I paid $400 for this one. That's about average for a #25 disc. This one is the largest of the 3 sizes available. (6', 7-1/2', and 9') They can be cut down if you find a deal on a 9'er. Remove 1 or 2 disc blades and spools per gang, cut down and re-thread the ends of the axles, and you have a smaller model. Most I've seen are 6' or 7-1/2'.

Not only do these sell cheaper than any new disc I know of, they do a much better job. Massey sales literature from the day, nor the manual list's weight, but I'd estimate this 9'er weighs close to 1200lbs.

 

[EddieWalker]

I don't know how wide your tractor is, but my 35 hp Century isn't as wide as my 5 ft disk. It's a really cheap disk that's made out of angle iron and I don't think I'll ever figure out how to adjust it, but that's not a big deal. I use mine for food plots twice a year and every now and then when I need to plant some grass on a dirt area that I've cleared. I paid $295 for it from an add I saw in the American Classifieds.
My disk is wide enough to cover my tire tracks.

There is one on Ebay that's 50 miles from me that I was thinking about. 8ft wide, box frame for $800 Buy it Now price. I think it's a King Kutter brand, but don't remember for sure. I just saw it on Ebay again last night.

Good luck,
Eddie

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

grandpa uses his old disc to cultivate with....he welded a pipe in his right disc, extending it out past the tire....he uses this one side to throw some dirt up on the weeds.......works pretty slick....

I don't know how wide your tractor is, but my 35 hp Century isn't as wide as my 5 ft disk. It's a really cheap disk that's made out of angle iron and I don't think I'll ever figure out how to adjust it, but that's not a big deal. I use mine for food plots twice a year and every now and then when I need to plant some grass on a dirt area that I've cleared. I paid $295 for it from an add I saw in the American Classifieds.
My disk is wide enough to cover my tire tracks.

There is one on Ebay that's 50 miles from me that I was thinking about. 8ft wide, box frame for $800 Buy it Now price. I think it's a King Kutter brand, but don't remember for sure. I just saw it on Ebay again last night.

Good luck,
Eddie

 

[Keith_B]

i started to post a thread on here, but a quick search and ole' farmwithjunk has come through again......now i'm on the look out for a 7 1/2 foot set...i would assume you'd want your discs just a bit wider than your tractor, so you don't get too close to the actual plants...

thanks farmwithjunk, again, and thanks TBN

With the TC45 the set on the back of the old Ford should work fine. The measurement of the MF set is actually about 6 /12 ft. My FIL bought a new set and they worked well on his 4000 Ford, which has significantly larger track than the TC45.

I've got an old set of Dearborn Lift series E disks that work like a charm. To adjust you unbolt and move the disk gangs around.

 

[DieselAddiction]

What do you look at on a used disc? how do you tell if they are worn out?

on the mf discs, is there any problems of the adj handles getting frozen, rusted? How heavy is a 7ft disc, and is it too big for my tractor(dx31/nh31)?

Thanks

 

[wolc123]

One thing I would reccomend to anyone looking for a disk, unless you are only working very small areas or need to put it on and off a trailer frequently, forget about a 3-pt disk. I have used several different 3 pt and pull-type disk, and the pull types are always way more effective. This is because they operate independently and follow the ground contour, while a 3 pt consumes hydraulic power in order to keep the disk form following the ground contour. This is a double wammy that casues the three point disk to do less effective work on the soil while consuming more tractor power. Harry Ferguson did no favor to the disk man when he invented the 3 pt hitch. The 7.5 ft JD pull-type disk I picked up this spring, along with a couple old 3-section drags for $100 is without question the best used implement I have ever purchased. It can be completely controlled from the tractor seat with a rope, and has very little wear as the elderly owner only used it to work up a 1/2 acre garden since getting it new back in the 50's. Godd deals on old farm equipment are out there and getting easier to find since the 10X drop in scrap steel prices over the last year.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

One thing I would reccomend to anyone looking for a disk, unless you are only working very small areas or need to put it on and off a trailer frequently, forget about a 3-pt disk. I have used several different 3 pt and pull-type disk, and the pull types are always way more effective. This is because they operate independently and follow the ground contour, while a 3 pt consumes hydraulic power in order to keep the disk form following the ground contour. This is a double wammy that casues the three point disk to do less effective work on the soil while consuming more tractor power. Harry Ferguson did no favor to the disk man when he invented the 3 pt hitch. The 7.5 ft JD pull-type disk I picked up this spring, along with a couple old 3-section drags for $100 is without question the best used implement I have ever purchased. It can be completely controlled from the tractor seat with a rope, and has very little wear as the elderly owner only used it to work up a 1/2 acre garden since getting it new back in the 50's. Godd deals on old farm equipment are out there and getting easier to find since the 10X drop in scrap steel prices over the last year.

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3-point disc is generally used in float position with NO load on hydraulics, OR, SOME people will disc while using draft control OR position control to gauge depth, but EITHER wouldn't use any more "power" than gauging a disc with a lift cylinder on a wheel disc. Since 3-point has NO "down pressure" there is NO power used to "keep the disc from following ground contour". In any event, the "power" used would be so marginal, it's not a factor UNLESS the disc is already far too big for the tractor it's hooked to.

I've owned both styles, and USED both quite a bit in 38 years of farming. 3-point disc's DO NOT use more of the tractors power than a drawn disc. Simply not the case...... The "old" drawn disc's without wheel transport are very limited as far as transport-ability. There's a perfectly good reason why they disappeared from production about 50 years ago.

The Ferguson/Massey Ferguson #25 disc (3-point) has the capability to flex and follow ground contours quite effectively. Same applies to the older Ford "Flex Hitch" disc's. There are newer, lighter duty 3-point disc's that just don't "cut it", but that's a case of poor/inadaquate design rather than an inherent issue with the disc being a 3-point model. A GOOD 3-point disc is more than capable of adaquate performance. BTDT, held on to my 3-point disc........ (Still own a drawn type IH wheel disc too, but PREFER the #25 MF disc as it does just as good of a job and is FAR more "user friendly")

Both types have their distinct advantages. Both have their distinct DISadvantages. For the vast majority of disc owners/users (who would be using a disc of 8' or less primarily, and since that fits the bill for most all on TBN) a mounted (3-point) disc is usually the best alternative.