Using clutch as a brake?

[CobyRupert]

You guys are getting Trolled...

Yep, that's what I guessed back in post #31. Showed hand with the "I don't understand what my wife means when she says I ride the brakes" was too far over the top.
I guess it's a good thing that there really aren't people this.....uhm......what's a polite word....?

 

[McREBEL]

Showed hand with the "I don't understand what my wife means when she says I ride the brakes" was too far over the top.
I guess it's a good thing that there really aren't people this.....uhm......what's a polite word....?

Showed hand there and several other places, but if he just happened to be for real he very seriously needed some help. I am sure most if not all were skeptical from at least post #8.

At worst it was entertaining.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Interesting that he lurked for about a year at least. ... Then posted no clue.

 

[son of man]

I think he has been close by one of his pictures.

that was in the general vicinity of the other pond. even though that pond is dried up, some of the ground back there is still kind of moist. incidentally, the brush around there is still very thick/high. I may try to tackle it after I get everything else nice and low.

 

[son of man]

Slipping the clutch means having it partially engaged so it kinda - sorta keeps you moving but at a reduced rate with reduced power. As I said earlier, a gear - driven tractor (or any vehicle) has a fixed ratio of engine rpm to wheel rpm for any given gear that you are in. If you know you tractor will do 5mph in 2nd gear at 2000 rpm, and you measure the speed to only be 3 mph, you are either spinning the wheels or using the clutch to not transmit full power to the wheels. This will shorten the life of your clutch a LOT.

Riding the brakes means you have a foot on the pedal at all times. Usually you see this with some older people who think their emergency reaction time is slower than it used to be, so they keep their left foot on the brake and right foot on the gas. Invariably their leg gets tired and you see the car going down the road with the brake lights on solid. If the light is on, there is probably some braking force also being applied, thereby wearing the brake pads for no reason, generating more heat, and causing drag on the car so milage drops as well.

If you are doing either of these, STOP IT!

I don't do either of those things. I just use 1 foot to accelerate/brake in my truck. I usually leave my foot rested on the accelerator even if I'm not actually pressing it. however, if I see a red light way down the road and know I will have to stop, I may begin gently applying the brake a good ways off instead of waiting until I get closer to slow down more rapidly. could that be considered riding the brakes?

 

[son of man]

It appears to be so.



Are you scared to ask her?

nah lol. I did but either she didn't do a very good job of explaining it or I didn't understand what she was talking about?

 

[son of man]

A few rules of thumb for normal clutch operation. Getting unstuck is not normal for these points.
-never ride the clutch (or any vehicles brakes) because you will prematurely wear it out
-when pushing in the clutch pedal do it rather quickly not slowly
-when releasing the clutch pedal you should do it slowly enough so it is not abrupt but fast enough as to not cause extra wear. A clutch job is not cheap.

Here's a few videos to check out on how a clutch works, hopefully these will help you understand the points above. Cars are very similar to tractors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqF-aBtTBnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjGohWy-OU

Someone mentioned not seeing why someone would keep the brakes locked together. I mainly use my tractor for loader work and my yard is very hilly. My brakes are always locked together and the tractor is always in 4 wheel drive. Otherwise I may end up going down a hill sideways. I really have no use for brake steering at this point.

thanks! I've heard of clutches and how people needed to get them repaired all my life but never knew what they actually did. these 2 videos did a good job of explaining how they work.

 

[son of man]

Yes it's ok to lower rpms prior to engaging. If you look in my profile or search I have a thread titled "Mf 263" I split and installed a clutch in my 263 Massey

it seems like that should lessen the initial jerk since it won't start moving as quick. that's a nice looking tractor! was the dealer charging the initial owner 2k for the clutch job or did you negotiate the price down a little?

 

[son of man]

Yep and splitting the tractor is not fun. I bet it takes a long time to mow in low. To stop the jerkiness of using a higher gear just let the clutch out a bit slower. It's not a race you just don't want it to take 30 seconds to let it out. You can feel when it starts to engage, the motor starts to drag, let it out a bit slower when you hit that stage and it won't jerk as much. Once you start moving then you can let it out quicker for the rest of the way.

I'll try to release it with a little more finesse and see if it makes a difference.

 

[Dewbie]

Showed hand there and several other places, but if he just happened to be for real he very seriously needed some help. I am sure most if not all were skeptical from at least post #8.

At worst it was entertaining.

I agree I've been skeptical from the beginning but it's hard to tell..what's second nature to some is foreign to others. He's either very clueless and in need of some one one training or he's being a jack leg wasting people's time when they could be helping someone that's really needing help. I reckon in the end it doesn't matter because for the most part it has been entertaining