Using dyed diesel in a pickup truck

[cp1969]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Pure and simple off road fuel does NOT in any way shape or form stain or dye your fuel system in the slightest. Once it goes through your tank CONTRARY to urban legend they would not know if you had red fuel or not. All they go by is what is in your tank right now. They dip the tank and if it is red you have a problem. If it isn't red you have no problem at all. They don't go pulling filters and fuel lines. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif )</font>

Yeah, but you have to run it ALL out or else the remaining few gallons taints the next batch of undyed fuel you put in. It may not be AS red, but as far as I know there are no breaks for how 'pink' your fuel is.

 

[cp1969]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Pure and simple off road fuel does NOT in any way shape or form stain or dye your fuel system in the slightest. Once it goes through your tank CONTRARY to urban legend they would not know if you had red fuel or not. All they go by is what is in your tank right now. They dip the tank and if it is red you have a problem. If it isn't red you have no problem at all. They don't go pulling filters and fuel lines. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif )</font>

Yeah, but you have to run it ALL out or else the remaining few gallons taints the next batch of undyed fuel you put in. It may not be AS red, but as far as I know there are no breaks for how 'pink' your fuel is.

 

[jcmseven]

Lewis,

Do not use dyed fuel in an on-road vehicle in NC. They will put you under the road for it, and they are looking. You might be fortunate and drive forty years and not have a problem, but I would say that would be unlikely. They are even checking for evidence of staining during some traffic stops (I suppose for an added source of revenue).

John M

 

[jcmseven]

Lewis,

Do not use dyed fuel in an on-road vehicle in NC. They will put you under the road for it, and they are looking. You might be fortunate and drive forty years and not have a problem, but I would say that would be unlikely. They are even checking for evidence of staining during some traffic stops (I suppose for an added source of revenue).

John M

 

[jcmseven]

One more thing, I hate to give a story, but one of my patients who operates a transport company using mostly one ton trucks pulling goosenecks made the mistake of using dyed fuel, and was overweight by less than 100# on his tag and was stopped on I85N. The red (no pun) flag was the truck and gooseneck. Apparently in our state, these combo's are being pulled a lot for weight checks. He was cited a huge fine, the truck was towed to an impound yard where after paying an enormous fine, he got the truck back. He is still fighting this legally, but his initial stop was for a weight check by NC DMV, who then siphoned some fuel apparently. I am not clear on all the details, but it has been a major hassle for his business. The kicker: he did not fill his tank, his driving partner did the day before, so he did not know. I would say on your questions: I like diesels, but your 150 is a plenty fine truck, and there is no dye rule (yet) for gasoline. My understanding is they siphon some from the tank. I know not what or how they do this. I do know NC is really strict on this; my father who is semi-retired from the oil business, was very up on this due to his line of work.

John M

 

[jcmseven]

One more thing, I hate to give a story, but one of my patients who operates a transport company using mostly one ton trucks pulling goosenecks made the mistake of using dyed fuel, and was overweight by less than 100# on his tag and was stopped on I85N. The red (no pun) flag was the truck and gooseneck. Apparently in our state, these combo's are being pulled a lot for weight checks. He was cited a huge fine, the truck was towed to an impound yard where after paying an enormous fine, he got the truck back. He is still fighting this legally, but his initial stop was for a weight check by NC DMV, who then siphoned some fuel apparently. I am not clear on all the details, but it has been a major hassle for his business. The kicker: he did not fill his tank, his driving partner did the day before, so he did not know. I would say on your questions: I like diesels, but your 150 is a plenty fine truck, and there is no dye rule (yet) for gasoline. My understanding is they siphon some from the tank. I know not what or how they do this. I do know NC is really strict on this; my father who is semi-retired from the oil business, was very up on this due to his line of work.

John M

 

[Joe1]

According to the Dyed Diesel Fuel inspectors from IRS (It is a Federal Highway Use Tax Issue as well as a State Highway Use Tax Issue) dye can be detected in a tank sample even after only clear fuel was used up to a maximum of almost 20 tanks, depending on how much dyed fuel was left when the clear went in.

The only exemption for using this stuff on the road is in a bonafide emergency and you just couldn't get any clear fuel, i.e. Kartina. But these are rare and the burden of proof is on the driver, not the inspector to prove the emergency.

At a minimum, illegal use of dyed fuel is a hastle, a lot of expense in the form of fines and impound charges, and as a maximum a Federal Felony,

 

[Joe1]

According to the Dyed Diesel Fuel inspectors from IRS (It is a Federal Highway Use Tax Issue as well as a State Highway Use Tax Issue) dye can be detected in a tank sample even after only clear fuel was used up to a maximum of almost 20 tanks, depending on how much dyed fuel was left when the clear went in.

The only exemption for using this stuff on the road is in a bonafide emergency and you just couldn't get any clear fuel, i.e. Kartina. But these are rare and the burden of proof is on the driver, not the inspector to prove the emergency.

At a minimum, illegal use of dyed fuel is a hastle, a lot of expense in the form of fines and impound charges, and as a maximum a Federal Felony,

 

[cp1969]

Besides the IRS and State tax people, the EPA can lighten your wallet as well for running dyed fuel on road.

Which is fine with me and I wish they would step up enforcement. Anybody using the roads should be paying his share of the cost of their construction and upkeep.

The deterioration of personal integrity over the last few decades is appalling.

 

[cp1969]

Besides the IRS and State tax people, the EPA can lighten your wallet as well for running dyed fuel on road.

Which is fine with me and I wish they would step up enforcement. Anybody using the roads should be paying his share of the cost of their construction and upkeep.

The deterioration of personal integrity over the last few decades is appalling.