UTV at 8600 ft?

Jchonline · Jul 30, 2019

zmountaineer said:
The pioneer 1000 is a 6 speed auto dual clutch no belts that can be manually shifted with the paddles. Has hi and low range. Can lock all 4 together plus has a 1 wheel turf mode. The pioneer 700 is a 3 speed with a torque converter, I believe.

I will say that the 1000 is quite a good compromise between work and play. I may sound biased but I researched a lot before I made my purchase.

Right now the only 3 with a factory cab I can find in this range are Polaris Ranger 1000 Northstar, Deere 835M, and Kubota X1100C (and diesel offers from Deere/Polaris which I wont entertain). I am leaning towards gas with EFI. Right now the Polaris Northstar is 80+ HP and the Deere is 54. That is a pretty huge difference. For plowing at altitude I might want all I can get.

Industrial Toys · Jul 30, 2019

To me a CVT is something you find in a 500hp tractor. Call the CTV on UTVs what it is. A SNOWMOBILE clutch!

Motorboatin · Jul 30, 2019

Jchonline said:
Right now the only 3 with a factory cab I can find in this range are Polaris Ranger 1000 Northstar, Deere 835M, and Kubota X1100C (and diesel offers from Deere/Polaris which I wont entertain). I am leaning towards gas with EFI. Right now the Polaris Northstar is 80+ HP and the Deere is 54. That is a pretty huge difference. For plowing at altitude I might want all I can get.

I have a polaris 900 with the cab. It doesn't have AC like the newer model but the heat is used all the time. The polaris has the engine under the bed so the cab doesn't get any of the heat that other styles get. Engine heat isn't bad in January but my old CanAm with the engine between the seats was unbearable in the summer at any speed under 15mph

I use my machine mostly for hunting but I have dragged plenty of logs out of areas we won't take the tractor. I changed the belt during the last oil change as a precaution but it looked fine. I kept it as a spare

Motorboatin · Jul 30, 2019

Industrial Toys said:
To me a CVT is something you find in a 500hp tractor. Call the CTV on UTVs what it is. A SNOWMOBILE clutch!

Yes they are snowmobile clutches. The new Artic cat has over 200hp

It's 2019 and even cars have CVT trans these days

ArlyA · Jul 30, 2019

You are so, so out of touch with the mechanics of this. UTV and snowmobiles clutch systems, are not the same. Sleds use there belt as there clutch where as most UTV's, have a wet clutch, and leave the CV belts under compression at all times. As far as I know, there are none used in 500hp engines.

From wiki

A continuously variable transmission, also known as a shiftless transmission, single-speed transmission, stepless transmission, pulley transmission, or, in case of motorcycles, a 'twist-and-go', is an automatic transmission that can change seamlessly through a continuous range of effective gear ratios. Wikipedia

Industrial Toys said:
To me a CVT is something you find in a 500hp tractor. Call the CTV on UTVs what it is. A SNOWMOBILE clutch!

Industrial Toys · Jul 30, 2019

As far as I am concerned my Mule has a snowmobile clutch. A 500 hp tractor may have a variable drive tranny, but I promise you, it won't have a rubber belt. I don't know if CVT and IVT are the same thing.

Give me a simple manual transmission and a clutch with a pedal on the floor!

In any event. After using my E-Gator more and more, I have little interest in using the Mule, on account of the terrible noise. I realize, the two cannot be compared, but for almost all of my tasks the Gator is far better suited and much more enjoyable.

Snobdds · Jul 30, 2019

Industrial Toys said:
As far as I am concerned my Mule has a snowmobile clutch. A 500 hp tractor may have a variable drive tranny, but I promise you, it won't have a rubber belt. I don't know if CVT and IVT are the same thing.

Give me a simple manual transmission and a clutch with a pedal on the floor!

In any event. After using my E-Gator more and more, I have little interest in using the Mule, on account of the terrible noise. I realize, the two cannot be compared, but for almost all of my tasks the Gator is far better suited and much more enjoyable.

The 1980's called, they would like for you to vouch for their technology...

Industrial Toys · Jul 30, 2019

I probably have many things from the 80s that are still functioning perfectly as intended. Stuff from five years ago, not so much!

I see some of these UTVs and SCUTS and to me they look like this:

To me, that's not progress.

Motorboatin · Jul 30, 2019

Nothing progresses like it should

1989 Ford

2019 Ford

DIXIEDOG · Aug 2, 2019

Industrial Toys said:
I don't think of any belt driven UTV as a serious condender for a work vehicle meaning snowplowing in particular or even regular towing. But maybe I should wait ten years and see how all these machines pan out.

My Gator has been going strong plowing every Maine storm since 12' and it shows no signs of getting tired. I've had one mechanical break down when plowing, I was in reverse with the wheel cut trying to back out of a ditch I had plowed too far over...the cv axle broke that was in 13' I believe and no problems since. It was replaced the warranty even covered it. I have well over 250 hrs of plowing with this and still have yet to blow a belt or find a storm too large to plow including a multiple 20" plus snowstorms. The biggest limiting factor I have is that Boss doesn't make an even bigger V plow for UTVs I'd like something with a 36" high moldboard instead of 27" on some storms.:laughing: