Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today.

   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #91  
You can always build a new road and fence off the existing one and line the road with Honey Locus trees or Bodark/Osage orange trees, I'm sure they will love you for years to come.
It is your property and you can plant trees and put in a fence if you want.

Sorry on your loss /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #92  
You can always build a new road and fence off the existing one and line the road with Honey Locus trees or Bodark/Osage orange trees, I'm sure they will love you for years to come.
It is your property and you can plant trees and put in a fence if you want.

Sorry on your loss /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #93  
Sorry for your loss.

Key item is the driver, who has a disability and does not do things "reasonably" the way she clearly should, at her age. Such behavior is actually an indicator of mental illness/disability. Understanding cause and effect relationships and modifying behavior to avoid the undesirable effect is not something that such people can or will do much of.

The benefit of this is that the neighborhood is now more aware and can take precautions... and hopefully the neighbors and their daughter will find a way to change behavior or get furtrher medications/help. The problem of mental illness/disability is far greater than most of us are aware....

President Bush's
Commission on Mental Health says:

"In any given year, about 5% to 7% of adults have a serious mental illness, according to several nationally representative studies. A similar percentage of children - about 5% to 9% - have a serious emotional disturbance. These figures mean that millions of adults and children are disabled by mental illnesses every year."

Thus, dealing with mental illness and its effects is very likely something we must do, either in our families or with our neighbors.

ultrarunner, you seem to have handled this admirably well under the circumstances.

I doubt that a speed bump/dip will do anything but cause problems for everyone living down the road.

Years ago I was taking my two boys, age about 10 and 12, to an Indian Guides meeting after dark. Two blocks from the house a large dog ran in front of the car. I was going maybe 25mph and braked the maximum while keeping the boys from being slammed into their seat belts too hard. I knew this would likely result in bumping the dog since it simply appeared out of the dark running straight across in front of the car and implemented my long ago decision that I would spill animal blood, if need be, before spilling people blood by NOT completely panic brakeing when an animal (deer, dog, rabbit, cat, etc.) runs in front of me. The dog bounced off and continued into the night yelping. I stopped and exited the car to see what I could do and in about 30 seconds the owner appeared... a late teens fellow who had been out running with the dog thru the streets and vacant lots inside the city limits.

He didn't follow the dog to render aid, but attacked me immediately using a martial arts rotate 360 degrees and slam the opponent in the head/face with the foot approach. Taken aback and with the wind knocked out of me, I managed to reenter the car and drive off with the boys, leaving the owner to his anger and injured dog. Thus I can attest that stopping immmmediately and dealing with the dog and its owner can be a dangerous path.

May Rudy rest in peace and be long and fondly remembered by all.
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #94  
Sorry for your loss.

Key item is the driver, who has a disability and does not do things "reasonably" the way she clearly should, at her age. Such behavior is actually an indicator of mental illness/disability. Understanding cause and effect relationships and modifying behavior to avoid the undesirable effect is not something that such people can or will do much of.

The benefit of this is that the neighborhood is now more aware and can take precautions... and hopefully the neighbors and their daughter will find a way to change behavior or get furtrher medications/help. The problem of mental illness/disability is far greater than most of us are aware....

President Bush's
Commission on Mental Health says:

"In any given year, about 5% to 7% of adults have a serious mental illness, according to several nationally representative studies. A similar percentage of children - about 5% to 9% - have a serious emotional disturbance. These figures mean that millions of adults and children are disabled by mental illnesses every year."

Thus, dealing with mental illness and its effects is very likely something we must do, either in our families or with our neighbors.

ultrarunner, you seem to have handled this admirably well under the circumstances.

I doubt that a speed bump/dip will do anything but cause problems for everyone living down the road.

Years ago I was taking my two boys, age about 10 and 12, to an Indian Guides meeting after dark. Two blocks from the house a large dog ran in front of the car. I was going maybe 25mph and braked the maximum while keeping the boys from being slammed into their seat belts too hard. I knew this would likely result in bumping the dog since it simply appeared out of the dark running straight across in front of the car and implemented my long ago decision that I would spill animal blood, if need be, before spilling people blood by NOT completely panic brakeing when an animal (deer, dog, rabbit, cat, etc.) runs in front of me. The dog bounced off and continued into the night yelping. I stopped and exited the car to see what I could do and in about 30 seconds the owner appeared... a late teens fellow who had been out running with the dog thru the streets and vacant lots inside the city limits.

He didn't follow the dog to render aid, but attacked me immediately using a martial arts rotate 360 degrees and slam the opponent in the head/face with the foot approach. Taken aback and with the wind knocked out of me, I managed to reenter the car and drive off with the boys, leaving the owner to his anger and injured dog. Thus I can attest that stopping immmmediately and dealing with the dog and its owner can be a dangerous path.

May Rudy rest in peace and be long and fondly remembered by all.
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today.
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Texas John, You are right in that everyone in the neighborhood is more cautious... especially parents/grandparents with children.

Several of the neighborhood kids... Rudy's play buddies, made a small memorial at the mailbox with Rudy's favorite throw toy, flowers and a candle. Brother-in-law is still taking it very hard and blames himself for not keeping Rudy out of harms way. The big guy was so passive that he even let baby chicks hop all over him.

One last picture: Christmas 2005
 

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   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today.
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Texas John, You are right in that everyone in the neighborhood is more cautious... especially parents/grandparents with children.

Several of the neighborhood kids... Rudy's play buddies, made a small memorial at the mailbox with Rudy's favorite throw toy, flowers and a candle. Brother-in-law is still taking it very hard and blames himself for not keeping Rudy out of harms way. The big guy was so passive that he even let baby chicks hop all over him.

One last picture: Christmas 2005
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #97  
We have an issue much like this one at our farm. Our neighbor has a 50 ft right of way between our pastures to access his land. This drive is over 1000 feet long and straight as an arrow. He regularly flies down the drive at over 40 mph (calculated via time over distance). The problem is, the right of way is his land, not ours.

When we have horse shows on our property, people park their trailers in the pastures and have to cross the road to access the show grounds. He continues to fly down the road without slowing down. To date, him and his wife have ran over three of the farm's dogs. He has only killed one and 'rolled' the other two.

Him and his wife never bothered stopping.

I don't know if his culture (he is from a small island off of China) doesn't care about pets or is he is simply that callous.

In my mind, the problem is two-fold. It is our responsibility to keep our dogs out of the road. That can be very hard with Jack Russells that rightly view the barn and fields as their territory. The other issue is that he simply needs to slow down.

His speed is part of the reason why the dogs chase him. It also does not give him any time to adequately react to changing conditions on a gravel road. When he hit and killed my brothers dog, he was traveling at least 30 mph within a few feet of a parked truck and trailer. A horse was tied to that trailer.

He missed the horse by only a couple of feet. Why he can’t simply slow down to a walking speed as he passes parked vehicles, horses, and dogs I don’t know. I also don’t know what can be done about the problem.

I just hope he doesn’t hit a person or a horse one day…
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #98  
We have an issue much like this one at our farm. Our neighbor has a 50 ft right of way between our pastures to access his land. This drive is over 1000 feet long and straight as an arrow. He regularly flies down the drive at over 40 mph (calculated via time over distance). The problem is, the right of way is his land, not ours.

When we have horse shows on our property, people park their trailers in the pastures and have to cross the road to access the show grounds. He continues to fly down the road without slowing down. To date, him and his wife have ran over three of the farm's dogs. He has only killed one and 'rolled' the other two.

Him and his wife never bothered stopping.

I don't know if his culture (he is from a small island off of China) doesn't care about pets or is he is simply that callous.

In my mind, the problem is two-fold. It is our responsibility to keep our dogs out of the road. That can be very hard with Jack Russells that rightly view the barn and fields as their territory. The other issue is that he simply needs to slow down.

His speed is part of the reason why the dogs chase him. It also does not give him any time to adequately react to changing conditions on a gravel road. When he hit and killed my brothers dog, he was traveling at least 30 mph within a few feet of a parked truck and trailer. A horse was tied to that trailer.

He missed the horse by only a couple of feet. Why he can’t simply slow down to a walking speed as he passes parked vehicles, horses, and dogs I don’t know. I also don’t know what can be done about the problem.

I just hope he doesn’t hit a person or a horse one day…
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #99  
<font color="blue"> One day when they were tearing past my house I went out into the road with an ax in my hand. </font>

Well done Jim. In New York we'd call that "a frank and open exchange of views". /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif They probably noticed your L39 sitting there and thought "Hmmm... this thing can dig a hole 10 feet deep, well below the effective depth of forensic thermal imaging devices. If I don't slow down on Jim's road my body will never be found." /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
   / Venting..Neighbor drove over and killed dog today. #100  
<font color="blue"> One day when they were tearing past my house I went out into the road with an ax in my hand. </font>

Well done Jim. In New York we'd call that "a frank and open exchange of views". /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif They probably noticed your L39 sitting there and thought "Hmmm... this thing can dig a hole 10 feet deep, well below the effective depth of forensic thermal imaging devices. If I don't slow down on Jim's road my body will never be found." /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 

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