VERY expensive beet juice!

[WilliamBos]

I don't think beet juice is corrosive. Here in PA during the winter they use some sort of brine liquid to prevent icy roads. That stuff is highly corrosive. I think they are testing some sort of beet juice mixture which is environmentally friendly and non-corrosive to replace the brine. Once that brine dries on your car it is hard to clean off. Gotta love the NE in winter!

They key ingredient in brine is sugar beet pulp, that is what makes everything stick. We have been using it up here for years, way worse than salt and calcium. Sugar beet pulp on its own does not work.

I find it hilarious that the SCUT/CUT crowd has embraced the old way of loading tires that is no longer used. Should really pay attention, radial tires, minimal weight and adjusting air pressure as needed to avoid soil compaction has been practiced for years, and works. Adding suitcase weights and removing when not needed does not take too much time. The density of cast iron is far superior to a space hogging liquid.

Read up on soil compaction, there is a science to it.

 

[Tx Jim]

They key ingredient in brine is sugar beet pulp, that is what makes everything stick. Adding suitcase weights and removing when not needed does not take too much time. The density of cast iron is far superior to a space hogging liquid.
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REALLY may I ask what you've been smoking besides tebaccy??? Wikipedia doesn't mention beet juice in it's definition of Ca Cl nor did my college professor mention beet juice in correlation with Ca Cl in chemistry class. PS: weighting effects of frt suitcase weights and rear tire ballast are totally different. I guess you add/remove rear weight weights every time it needed to save soil compaction.

 

[aczlan]

REALLY may I ask what you've been smoking besides tebaccy??? Wikipedia doesn't mention beet juice in it's definition of Ca Cl nor did my college professor mention beet juice in correlation with Ca Cl in chemistry class. PS: weighting effects of frt suitcase weights and rear tire ballast are totally different. I guess you add/remove rear weight weights every time it needed to save soil compaction.

Beet Juice is often used with liquid CaCL to help it stick to the road better when pretreating roads.
See: Why Pickle Brine Is a Secret Weapon Against Ice

Aaron Z

 

[WilliamBos]

When you order a tractor, you spec it with the minimum amount of rear ballast that is needed, those stay on. Rear fender brackets are added to 4wd at the factory, suitcase weights are added as needed.

Row crop tractors are built with cast iron housings for a reason, to add weight so the tractor is heavier.

Wiikipedia has zero credibility since it can be edited by anyone.

I wont waste my breath arguing with a guy from texas on snow removal or road prespray.

 

[Tx Jim]

I wont waste my breath arguing with a guy from texas on snow removal or road prespray.

You remind me of another Canadian that down grades liquid ballast but provides no FACTS just a SMOKE SCREEN. If liquid ballast according to you & this person are so bad why do tractor manufacturers list liquid ballast in their operators manual????? PS I don't know or want to learn anything about snow removal!!!!!!!!!

 

[RaydaKub]

They key ingredient in brine is sugar beet pulp, that is what makes everything stick. We have been using it up here for years, way worse than salt and calcium. Sugar beet pulp on its own does not work.

The density of cast iron is far superior to a space hogging liquid.

Yes, that is what makes it stick. Sticking is not the same as corrosion. That is still coming from the salt content of the brine. Perhaps it rusts faster because it sticks on the car better, but to blame the corrosion on the beet juice itself is laughable.

Cast iron is heavier than liquid. Yup. But the cast iron you add takes up space. The fluid you add is inside the tires. How can you claim that as "space hogging"??

 

[IslandTractor]

They key ingredient in brine is sugar beet pulp, that is what makes everything stick. We have been using it up here for years, way worse than salt and calcium. Sugar beet pulp on its own does not work. I find it hilarious that the SCUT/CUT crowd has embraced the old way of loading tires that is no longer used. Should really pay attention, radial tires, minimal weight and adjusting air pressure as needed to avoid soil compaction has been practiced for years, and works. Adding suitcase weights and removing when not needed does not take too much time. The density of cast iron is far superior to a space hogging liquid. Read up on soil compaction, there is a science to it.

If you added flour to a salt mixture, would you conclude that flour rusts metal? Take a chemistry class. Beet juice is sugar and sugar doesn't rust metal. Period.

 

[TomSeller]

Beet Juice is often used with liquid CaCL to help it stick to the road better when pretreating roads.
See: Why Pickle Brine Is a Secret Weapon Against Ice

Aaron Z

Right. I think this thread is confusing using straight beet juice in your tires (not corrosive) with beet juice mixed with salt and used on roads (where the salt makes the MIXTURE corrosive). Beet juice on it's own is not corrosive.

See second bullet point
Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

 

[aczlan]

Right. I think this thread is confusing using straight beet juice in your tires (not corrosive) with beet juice mixed with salt and used on roads (where the salt makes the MIXTURE corrosive). Beet juice on it's own is not corrosive.
See second bullet point
Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

I agree. I was only referring to the use of beet juice in a liquid road de-iceing mixture. Beet juice on its own (as used in rimguard) is non-corrosive.

Aaron Z

 

[IslandTractor]

I agree. I was only referring to the use of beet juice in a liquid road de-iceing mixture. Beet juice on its own (as used in rimguard) is non-corrosive. Aaron Z

WillaimBos is the one who seems confused. He seems not to realize there is a difference between road anti icing and tractor liquid ballast. Does he really think RimGuard is a salt plus beet juice cocktail? You'd think that the marketing term "RimGuard" would suggest that they are promoting it as an alternative to the traditional CaCl solution.