VW Clean diesels.... how did they get them so clean?

[truckdiagnostics]

Ugh:mur:We may never really know what happened at VW. Don't care who the OEM is, Cummins cat, IH, Kubota, Deere the hoops they are jumping through to meet emissions is flawed and riddled with issues.
THE MAJORITY OF TRUCKS THAT RUN LOCAL AND ARE OWNED BY A SMALL COMPANY HAVE HAD THE EMISSION CONTROL COMPONENTS REMOVED.
The fact of the matter is VW has deep pockets, so they are going to pay.
The EPA is still going after IH and they are fighting it in court, they interpreted the rules one way the EPA the other. We don't know what happened at VW.
My point, as for the environment, the same amount of vehicles that still have emissions components, an equal number have it off. It has also been my experience once the fleet trucks get sold at auction used, the first thing to go is the emission control components.
So, what is really going on is VW is going to pay a lot of money to the EPA.
Can't speak for VW cars, but if it was a truck, if it is in the warranty period it might get fixed. if it is out, they will never take it in to get repaired the emissions control components are gone! So beating up the VWs of the world, long term is not going to effect the environment, until they do an emissions test on the vehicles after they are sold.
However, that is not there goal?, maybe it is to make it so hard to meet emissions regulations on a diesel, that they are no longer sold.

 

[Travelover]

Read on another forum - VW's new slogan - Farfromtruthum :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Read on another forum - VW's new slogan - Farfromtruthum :laughing:

Nice! :laughing:

 

[Helitech]

Quick question....other than me....how many of you actually own one of the VW TDI vehicles in question?

 

[IslandTractor]

Quick question....other than me....how many of you actually own one of the VW TDI vehicles in question?

Not I. I was thinking of getting one in June but finally decided not to. Nice cars.

 

[MossRoad]

Quick question....other than me....how many of you actually own one of the VW TDI vehicles in question?

I was quite interested in the diesel Jetta, but I can't fit in it safely. Didn't want a Passat or Beetle.

 

[Helitech]

Love mine up till not long ago. During the first 125,000 miles I only had one problem with it. The A/C compressor runs all the time and flow is controlled by a valve. The valve failed and I found a replacement valve. The Dealer will replaced the entire compressor.... $$$$$$$$$$. Worst fuel mileage in that time was 42.8 and the best was something. Like 48.7. Averaged 45-46 . About 135,000 and it shows signs of a cracked DPF. Pulling out the DPF, cats, egr etc...along with a Malone Tune will cost about $1200 -$1300. Big increase in torque and HP as well as 8-10 more MPG! I think now I'll wait and see what the fallout is before doing any work to it. May be time to upgrade at low cost...we will see.

 

[sseelhoff]

What about Porsche Diesels?

Reason I asked is I know someone that just picked their special order two weeks ago... they absolutely love it and it pulls their trailer like a dream.

Porsches and some of the larger Audis use the Urea (Ad Blue) system for their engines. The urea neutralizes the NOX.

 

[ultrarunner]

THE MAJORITY OF TRUCKS THAT RUN LOCAL AND ARE OWNED BY A SMALL COMPANY HAVE HAD THE EMISSION CONTROL COMPONENTS REMOVED.
The fact of the matter is VW has deep pockets, so they are going to pay.
The EPA is still going after IH and they are fighting it in court, they interpreted the rules one way the EPA the other. We don't know what happened at VW.

My point, as for the environment, the same amount of vehicles that still have emissions components, an equal number have it off. It has also been my experience once the fleet trucks get sold at auction used, the first thing to go is the emission control components..

Can't speak for the rest of the country but not in California... even off road diesels 50hp and larger that are not certified can not be used for business... on the ranch/farm not a big deal.

Thousands of compliant Diesel Rigs were barred from the port of Oakland because there was no grandfathering or older rigs... new engine/retrofit... or no port entry to haul from one of the largest container ports in the country...

Emissions are a big deal in California and California writes it's own rules for the most part...

A business caught with altered or missing emission related equipment is no joke.

 

[crazyal]

I was looking for a compact SUV with a diesel. Mazda was going to put one in the CX-5 but they kept dragging their feet so I went with gas. I quickly looked at VW. I expected them, of all companies, would of had a small diesel SUV but they didn't. Not sure if I would have bought a VW, they don't have the best name in reliability, but I'm kind of glad I didn't buy a diesel VW and get caught up in this mess.

The bigger issue is going to be what will the government do. They know know that their tests are inadequate. I think that means is future vehicles from all mfgs will now have to store data and it'll be downloaded yearly to make sure the engine is working correctly. That's going to mean no more messing with emission systems to get better fuel economy.