Want to thank TBN users that helped me fix the loader mount snowblower issues...

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grsthegreat

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   / Want to thank TBN users that helped me fix the loader mount snowblower issues... #2  
I just want to thank the users that helped me fix my issue with my loader mounted snowblower.

What i thought was acceptable blockage of the auger turned out to only need some adjustment of the hydraulic blowby valve (proper name??).

Now it doesnt stall out when blowing wet , compacted snow....


thank you again

I love TBN site.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/snow-removal/231936-blowing-very-wet-snow-loader-4.html









The term is actually "relief valve" but no harm done as long as its fixed for you.

I still wish the manufacturers would build them with solid auger and shallow narrow high angle flighting in construction(but thats just me).
 
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Glad you got it figured out!

Seems to work MUCH better and now you can hear the engine working when the blower gets loaded down

How many turns of adjustment did you go with?
 
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Great to hear.
 
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Glad you got it figured out!

Seems to work MUCH better and now you can hear the engine working when the blower gets loaded down

How many turns of adjustment did you go with?

I only made one complete 360 revolution. I can do up to 4, but i didnt want to eliminate the protection all together.


relief valve....thats the ticket.
 
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Glad it worked out for you. I was not one of the one of the TBN folks that was able to help you. Don't know much about snowblowers currently living down here in ****** land. :)
However I was prepared to offer the services of Jillian too come up there and help you shovel snow. Guess I just saved $$$$$ on plane ticket. Oh well maybe next time ! ;)

Boone

(Jillian in cab)
 

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I only made one complete 360 revolution. I can do up to 4, but i didnt want to eliminate the protection all together.


relief valve....thats the ticket.

Great to see that you now have it working properly and that when the blower loads up with snow, you can hear the engine revs dropping and then picking up again. Exactly how the engine governor should work !!!

Just a thought, do you have a pressure gauge inyour hydraulic circuits ?? It might pay to install one and then you would be able to see what is going on should there be any other problems surface.

Good job with your installation :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::- wish I could afford to have one :drool::drool::drool:

Cheers

jim
 
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Great to see that you now have it working properly and that when the blower loads up with snow, you can hear the engine revs dropping and then picking up again. Exactly how the engine governor should work !!!

Just a thought, do you have a pressure gauge inyour hydraulic circuits ?? It might pay to install one and then you would be able to see what is going on should there be any other problems surface.

Good job with your installation :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::- wish I could afford to have one :drool::drool::drool:

Cheers

jim

you know, a pressure gauge would be a cool add on... im going to check into that this summer....
i really like that idea.
 
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If you add some slick sheet material from Horn Plastics to line the snow casters interior-auger housing/impeller drum wall and chute-spout you will see huge difference in operation as the plastic will not heat up like the metal of the snow caster creating drag.(this is faster than attaching the plastic to the open auger and their will be less snow piling up in front of the snow caster as the open auger is also pushing the snow load back and higher when working.

Edit:

About the pressure guage, this is something you can either plumb in permanently or simply install a pressure gauge port which is the preferred method as it has a dust prevention plug and cap for the male and female ends.

Guages have a habit of being knocked off and broken at the worst times and that is one of the best reasons for a remote port to install and remove a temporary hydraulic pressure gauge.

The pressure gauge will only aid you in rough pressure adjustments delivering oil to the implement and it is better to check it at the tank/reservoir connection to the feeder line going to the front loaders boom.

The issue with an implement like this will always be heat loss and pipe run length as it diminishes the available fluid power over time.
 
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I just want to thank the users that helped me fix my issue with my loader mounted snowblower.

What i thought was acceptable blockage of the auger turned out to only need some adjustment of the hydraulic blowby valve (proper name??).

Now it doesnt stall out when blowing wet , compacted snow....


thank you again

I love TBN site.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/snow-removal/231936-blowing-very-wet-snow-loader-4.html

It's a proportioning valve sweetheart.....:)

I'm completely floored by your modesty.....:thumbsup:
 
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It's a proportioning valve sweetheart.....:)

I'm completely floored by your modesty.....:thumbsup:


I wonder if its an "Mentor" brand flow control valve with the aluminum block housing as it sounds like one of thier units?

:)
 
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Don't believe so. The builder of his unit uses Charr-Lynn components and Parker Valving.

Relief valve isn't the correct term. It's a proportioning valve. The adjustment knob acts on a needle valve and check ball system to divert a percentage of the fluid into bypass while maintaining a pre-set pressure. The tighter the needle becomes, the less fluid goes into bypass and the more fluid acts on the hydraulic motor.

I'm happy the story ended well.
 
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not sure of the brand on it. its the silver valve. Its a simple adjustment. Loosen the nut and turn the allen head screw.
 

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grsthegreat, I got to thinking instead of changing the adjustment from a powdery snow to heavy wet snow and back couldn't you just set it on ONE setting for use on any kind of snow?
 
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It's a proportioning valve sweetheart.....:)

I'm completely floored by your modesty.....:thumbsup:

If you are going to split hairs - how about the real and proper name ---
it is "Pressure Regulating Valve"

:D:D:D:D

Thx

jim
 
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grsthegreat, I got to thinking instead of changing the adjustment from a powdery snow to heavy wet snow and back couldn't you just set it on ONE setting for use on any kind of snow?


well, i was told that i would be safer using the lower settings early in the season and for light snow to protect the auger, etc. at too high of a setting rocks, branches, etc can cause damage by preventing the unit to disengage. The first snows of the season are the ones that really mess with my equipment. that was when the majority of the shear bolts on my old machine would break.
 
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well....that was the shortest snow season ever HAHA....


I just did a touch up on the paint to the plow and blower, and put them away. I chickened out about taking off the blower unit ... at least for a few weeks just in case la nina2012 hits with a vengeance....but i somehow doubt it.

All snow has melted except for small patches in the trees. how about your areas??
 
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Well... I guess different people and different manufacturers call them... well... differently.
Sun Hydraulics calls it an adjustable needle valve cartridge.

Just another split hair. :D

im going to stick with the official "thing-a-mabob" that the wife calls it....therefore she will know what im referring to :laughing:
 
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GRS When you didn't take me up on my permalink # 6 offer,I fiqured someone or the Warden is monitering your mail ! ;)

:D

Boone

BTW: Offer no-longer stands spent to much on her on V-Day !
 

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