Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please!

   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #11  
I have a similar situation as the OP. My neighbor, his family and employees speed up and down the road on a regular basis. They all drive full size pickups, and always drive right down the middle of the road. This causes the wash boarding. I always drive with my tires on the edge and the crown of the road. This keeps me out of the ruts, and tends to keep the road in better condition longer than it would have been.
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #12  
Long ago I used to live near the Army's Yuma Proving Ground in AZ. One of their studies was cause and prevention of washboard roads.

Result: Below a certain speed, washboard would not form. Above that speed, it could not be prevented. I forget the exact number, but I'm pretty sure it was 18MPH.

Bruce
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please!
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#13  
Slow down? :laughing:

Wedge

We only do 10-12 MPH now... It is on a slight curve and slope also...

My daugher asked what was on my "Wish List" this morning (she is planning for Christmas shopping I think) and I said I wanted an 1100 lb 84" box blade...
:D
David
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please!
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#14  
asphalt:thumbsup:

:laughing: :duh: I should have thought of that one...

asphalt:thumbsup:

What are you using for stone/gravel?

This is the easment, so I'm only using what is already there. Locally it is called "57" basically 1/2" to 3/4". The road and road bed is OLD. Loggers started it in the 70's, in the early 80"s it was sold and it took 39 loads of gravel & rock to build the easment the original owner said (he still lives at the end of the pavement).

On MY place I added recycled concrete, dust to 1.5", and it is awesome.

David
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #15  
We only do 10-12 MPH now... It is on a slight curve and slope also...

My daugher asked what was on my "Wish List" this morning (she is planning for Christmas shopping I think) and I said I wanted an 1100 lb 84" box blade...
:D
David

Here you go; for reference of course.
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please!
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#16  
David... It is time that you invest in some 3pt attachments that are intended to be used for grading. Several different kinds will work for you. Do some research, make a decision and go with that decision.

If a picture is worth a 1000 words, then a couple of pics will hasten the usable advice that you get by days. Without pictures, everyone is just guessing about what your conditions are and what you have to work with.

Brian,

I'd like a 1100 lb 84" boxblade... Just asked my daughter for one for Christmas, maybe she'll come through with it... :D

I will take some pix and post them when I am home and it is not raining...

David
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please!
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   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #18  
Speed bumps.

Hard to believe a road forms washboard ridges at 10 mph.
 
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #19  
   / Washbord on gravel drive, how to fix, stop, and prevent it please! #20  
Slow down? :laughing:

I'm guessing you may have to use more then the ratchet rake there. You might have to dig the area up and redo the subsoil/base.

Wedge

Wedge is spot on... you don't need asphalt, concrete or to slow down if the base is properly constructed... We have a contact with the local Ayuntamiento (town hall) here in Spain to maintain the local dirt roads (of which there are many), so have quite a lot of experience of dealing with washboarding.

You say that it is an old forestry road put in by loggers? If so I would guess that it was laid in a rush without any proper compaction other than the trucks which were using it. As others have said, corregation (washboarding) can be caused by speed, but it will only happen if the road has not been properly compacted during construction, or if too little material has been used.

My suggestion would be that you need to rip it up back down to the subsoil, grade the subsoil to match the profile of the finished road and then lay the stone back down again - you can re-use the existing stone, but make sure you roll it well (hire a vibrataing roller).

When rolling you need to first roll along the route of the road (straight), and then repeat crossing the camber at an angle (45 degrees). Then grade the road again, wet your stone and once dry enough to avoid sticking to the roller repeat the rolling except this time do three passes, finishing by rolling along the route (straight). The compaction from cross rolling the wet stone if done properly will help prevent the corregations (washboard) forming again.

One important point that may people don't realise - for your first pass with the roller, do NOT have the vibrator switched on - this is often the cause of washbording later on, as the soft material compacts unevenly. You need to roll it first, and then vibra-roll it once it is semi compacted. Likewise we often finish with a roll without the vibrator, as it leaves a better appearance.

You will still need to groom the road periodically to fill pot holes etc..., but be careful not to grade too deep otherwise you will need to hire a roller again!

Hope this helps... :thumbsup:
 

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