Watch out for bicycles too.

   / Watch out for bicycles too. #51  
the cyclists you are talking about are riding on country Roads, no shoulders these rds have sharp curve's hills poor visibly the light on the bikes are not great a lot of cyclists have poor riding habits ( they seem like they get in the zone) the city's have a lot of Blame these rds need to be up Graded
 
   / Watch out for bicycles too. #52  
As an occasional bicyclist (on country roads), I much prefer someone doing a fast pass 3-4' away from me to practically stopping behind me (while I hug the edge of the pavement) because they don't have sight to use the entire other lane.

A quick pass is far safer than a slow pass where a sudden appearance of another car is likely to send them in my direction...
There are a few women in town who like to walk, they also dress in that high vis clothing. I have thanked each of them when I had the chance; it makes them so much easier to see.
Like many (most?) states, we are required to give cyclists and pedestrians 3 feet when passing. At 50mph that isn’t enough. I will do my best to give you a full lane, even if it means slowing until I have a clear lane. That gets rather frustrating though when there’s long lines of traffic both ways and the cyclist is too important to move over, even when he has a clear breakdown lane.
Why not?

I pass cars and trucks all day long at speeds over 50 mph with only a couple feet between.
I can see much more danger in slowing.
 
   / Watch out for bicycles too. #53  
Never understood not wearing bright colors and such if possible. I personally have 2 rear red LED strobes on the back of my road bike, 1 white LED flashing light on the front and a florescent shirt or jacket depending on the weather. Sure hope I dont get hit bit If I get hit it certainly isn't because I didn't try to be as noticeable as possible.
I would love to ride on a bike trail all the time but we just dont have much around. The good trail is about an hour and a half away so it is really not a daily option....
Years ago I was driving a dump truck on a county road and saw a cyclist about a mile ahead of me because of his bright clothes that were clearly visible even as he rode in the shade. 200 yards behind him was another cyclist wearing dark clothing in the sunshine, I didn't see him until I was about a half mile behind him. When I started cycling a few years later I always wore something noticeable, including a neon green surveyors vest at times. I always had a flashing light on the back also and usually a flashing light on the front. I learned at construction sites, you always want to be clearly seen by the stuff that is bigger than you.
 
   / Watch out for bicycles too. #54  
My wife and I just bought new mountain bikes. We live in a rural area and I briefly though about riding on some of the low traffic rural roads but thought better of it. We will just haul our bikes to specific bike trails around the county each week.
smart move, it's different now from when riding a road bike on public roads back when. i use the urban trails as well now. not because of change of life stage, but for some of the reasons already mentioned in this thread. riding with a partner (or more) adds to some safety, tho i usually ride solo. cheers
 
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   / Watch out for bicycles too. #55  
So question slightly off topic but within scope of current bike safety. Do ebikes & scooters on public highways & urban trails increase or decrease bicycle safety on public thoroughfares with their increased presence?
it is an issue since their presence has increased in semi/urban areas, etc. as a motorist, i find escooters, pose a risk, ebikes as well. as a cyclist, good to see more people on 2 wheels. from a safety standard, a lot needs to be thought out. i guess questions like this really don't matter as long as you're looking 4 ways.... regards
 
   / Watch out for bicycles too. #56  
When i was riding my motorcycle alot it was mostly on 2 lane curvy roads, Many times i had to swerve or lock up the brakes because cars were passing bicycles. I live on a 2 lane and in summer there are lots of bikes and some have been ignorant and riding stupid which gives them a bad rap.
 
   / Watch out for bicycles too. #57  
the cyclists you are talking about are riding on country Roads, no shoulders these rds have sharp curve's hills poor visibly the light on the bikes are not great a lot of cyclists have poor riding habits ( they seem like they get in the zone) the city's have a lot of Blame these rds need to be up Graded
Takes a lot of tax money to upgrade the roads for cyclists.. and the cyclists do not pay any road tax for that !!
 
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E bikes have three classes. Mine is a class I bike, you only get assist when pedaling and the electric assist kicks out at 20 mph. The class III bikes allow assist up to 28 mph. Class II have throttles so you don’t have to pedal but you can. I personally don’t think e bikes significantly are more dangerous but obviously can be.

When I rode my regular bike I averaged between 11 and 12 mph, on my e bike it’s between 13 and 15 mph, so about 2 mph faster. The biggest difference is I ride further. The biggest difference in speed for me is going up hills and into headwinds I probably average 6 mph faster.

The biggest problem I can see with e bikes is trying to keep up with cars in traffic.
 
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The cost for trails? It can be high. I road some trails in Moab that I heard cost millions. Its also one of those things that attracts people to places like Moab. I’ve paid my fair share of taxes in my day, I don’t fell to bad about it.
 

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