Water line question

[grsthegreat]

Black poly is the worst option. I doubt pex is much better. Belled end pvc is the best. The pvc is a much harder pipe and is better for direct burial.

Why dont you like black poly. All the utilities use it up here. Mines 25 yo and I pressure test it every year. Never had any issues. But I used expensive fittings not the barbs and clamps.

 

[rScotty]

I'd go larger than 1" and certainly no smaller. 1" PVC for that length is just too small unless you have seriously high pressure water.

Larger PEX or black poly or even larger PVC.... all good. I did my property in 1" PVC schedule 40 and it has broken in a few places but are easy to fix.
The 80 psi electrical PVC with belled ends has held up better than the white 40 psi - especially where the risers get some sun. But the pressure & flow are both lower than I hoped for throughout the length. I'm pushing with about 40 psi initially for about a 300 foot straight run with some outlets along the way.

Next time I will look harder at black poly.
rScotty

 

[4570Man]

Why dont you like black poly. All the utilities use it up here. Mines 25 yo and I pressure test it every year. Never had any issues. But I used expensive fittings not the barbs and clamps.

Just about every water leak I’ve ever fixed has been that. It’s soft and rocks rub holes in it.

 

[Diggin It]

For one thing, the belled ends mean half the number of glue joints.


When I ran my water line over 15 years ago, I used 3/4' black poly inside 1" black poly. That gave me double thickness and resistance to crush or rock penetration. But that was when I could get 100' of each for about $20.

 

[grsthegreat]

We bed ours in sand, and I used the thick wall one that you can barely unroll.

 

[Rebeldad1]

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[Menagerie-Manor]

I have to run a water line to a home I'm building and would like to get some of your opinions on what you guys would do. Now remember its hard to find most materials. I'm needing to get the water line in so they can pour the concrete pad for shop. The shop pad is about 350 feet from the meter and I'm running 1" line. My two options are 1" pex and schedule 40. This is somewhat rocky ground with a lot of clay, sand and small stone in the mix. I'm reading that it wouldn't be a bad idea if I go with Pex to sleeve it which is going to raise the cost.

Pex line 1" x 400' is going run around 400.00 and I will roughly have two fitting in the total run. If I sleeve the pex with 4'x100' black corrugated sewer and drain pipe its going add another 240.00 for a total of 640.00. The pex isn't a full one inch inside diameter and more like .830. I can get a 300' roll and 100' roll so really one connection to get to shop.

Schedule 40 will be in 20' sticks at around 300.00 and I wouldn't think I would need to sleeve this. With the schedule 40 I will have about 20 glue joints and of course would use the blue glue in a quart. The PVC is a full one inch ID which means more water up to home and shop.

I am somewhat familiar with both setups. Meaning I have experience gluing PVC and I also have a pex tool and have ran pex before. My pocket book is telling me to go with PVC. Probably no clear cut answers but what would you guys do in this situation?

Absolutely nothing wrong with PEX, I've run thousands of feet and the stuff is practically indestructible negating any sleeve requirements for direct burial unless the conditions show otherwise.

 

[4570Man]

For one thing, the belled ends mean half the number of glue joints.


When I ran my water line over 15 years ago, I used 3/4' black poly inside 1" black poly. That gave me double thickness and resistance to crush or rock penetration. But that was when I could get 100' of each for about $20.

And a belled end is like 3 inches of glue area where a coupler is an inch of glue area.

 

[Deere Dude]

I just gutted my 25yo house of CPVC. Sick of fixing leaks yearly. Went to PEX for ease of working with and durability. In the OPs case I would run 1" PEX with no underground joints if possibly. Try to bury in sand.

 

[PILOON]

Have done many water lines and IMHO blue poly B is the way to go.
It can handle freeze/thaw many times and is rugged enough to withstand abuse as well.
It is the standard with most well installers in my area.