Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines

   / Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines #21  
Pure genius. Why not a 30A breaker? Or 40? I mean if that breaker is holding you back, why not put whatever you want in there? To heck with the 14ga wires in the circuit, you've got a point to make about 120V welders! :eek: To those who don't get sarcasm, this was a VERY bad idea, not safe at all, and could ACTUALLY cause a house/garage fire.

I've read all your tirades about 120V welders, and while I get your point about it being what a lot of people have, I do not agree that you can or should push it beyond it's limits, except in urgent situations where it will be fixed properly later. Watts are the limit, and you cannot get the needed watts for thicker metal on a 120V circuit, without some very unusual gyrations (30A breakers exist, for example, but are so rarely used as to being the ones the hardware store guy will be asking you if you really know what you are doing as he blows the dust off of it...). In most cases, pulling a new 220V circuit is so easy that using that as an argument is just lazy. Especially if you are serious about doing some welding work.

Seriously . Give it a rest. Seriously. Before someone gets hurt or burns their house down from your misguided advice. STOP!

This is hilarious!

Reminds me of the late great Gilda Radner Saturday Night Live line:

NEVERMIND!


waiting for the apology to the OP...
 
   / Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines #24  
If you are trying to parallel two 120VAC generators, connect the neutrals, connect the hot wires to a switch which will let you connect them together, then connect a light bulb across the two hot wires. When the bulb goes dark, the two generators are in phase, more or less - throw the switch to connect the hots. If they are 3 phase, connect the bulb across the two A phase lines and use a three pole switch on the hots. This is how it used to be done before fancy electronics.
 
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#25  
I've heard this before (and seen vids on youTube) and a detail puzzles me.

What if one generator hiccups? Does that throw them out of phase? What keeps them in phase?

What if one generator has a little more horsepower than the other (from a cleaner mainjet); then they pull down a little; how can the phase remain in alignment?

It seems to me that there would need to be a clutched / mechanical timing chain between the two motors, to keep the generators in phase.
 
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   / Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines #26  
Once they are in phase and connected, they are ``stuck together,'' and you can't get them out of phase. If you advance the throttle on one, it will carry more load, and drag the other along with it, so to speak. That's how it works with 3 phase, anyway. I don't have any first hand experience with single phase. Since you don't have the rotating magnetic field, they may not stick in phase.
 
   / Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines #27  
weird. I would expect what Sodo said here - that it would get out of whack in no time.
 
   / Welding spring-steel rock-rake tines #28  
Are these tines from China? I recall Everything Attachments stopped distributing a certain brand of landscape rake because (I think) the tines were from China and not the quality of the Italian? tines they used to come with.
 

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