Well.......................this isn't good

   / Well.......................this isn't good
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#11  
Yes, the engine speeds up. It is a linked pedal system. The further you depress either pedal the more your ground speed increases.
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #12  
In my opinion, ( I don't have the manual) the swash plate will not be directly connected to the pedals in that size of tractor. So you don't have a direct mechanical connection to the swash plate. It will be controlled by a hydraulic circuit. This on some tractors is electrically controlled sensing the position of the pedal and controlling the swash plate hydraulically. I am talking out of my hat as I don't have the manual for this rig, but this is what I think. Of course if the swash plate doesn't move in the opposite direction the slippers will not develop any pressure into the block ports and the pump wont pump fluid towards the hydraulic motor in that direction. The swash plate must change angle from neutral each direction. Of course the range selector is just a manual "crash box" transmission, and since it moves in reverse that is not the problem. The swash plate is not changing angle, for some reason, that is the problem.
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #13  
I'd be looking at the linkage and anything else between the pedal/treadle and the transmission (whether mechanical, hydraulic, electronic). Could be something very simple. Some sophisticated tractors (Deere eHydro, Kubota HST+) have a fly-by-wire setup so you're actually moving potentiometers with the HST pedal/treadle. A loose wire could disable one direction on a system like that.

I'd suggest looking at parts diagrams for your tractor brand/model and then see if there are any simple things to check. Could be something simple between the pedal/treadle and the transmission and those are easy to fix usually. If you trace it all to the transmission and don't find a problem, then it may be internal and you'll want to leave that part to the dealer/warranty process.
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #14  
^^ If it isn't fluid level or something internal, it might even be a stick/twig or some other obstruction in that linkage.
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #15  
Turn off your linked pedal and try again!
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good
  • Thread Starter
#16  
Shop came by to pick it up. Driver tried forward, no dice. Next he started backing up and reverse quit but forward started to work. Then he checked reverse and it was working as well. It's in their hands now. At least the driver can pass along what happened when he picked it up.

At least the driver was able to verify it was messed up. Just wished it would of made it to the dealer with a visible defect so they knew how to troubleshoot it.
 
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#17  
Stopped by the dealers today. Mechanic told me a solenoid went out inside the transmission. Seems Kioti doesn't want people getting inside the trans and messing around changing parts so they shipped a new transmission. They were working on replacing it when I stopped by and told me it should be ready in a couple of days.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And THAT folks is the reason not to buy an HST machine. Warranty fixes it now but what about 15 years from now?????
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #19  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And THAT folks is the reason not to buy an HST machine. Warranty fixes it now but what about 15 years from now?????

That’s what the naysayers said about automatic transmissions and air conditioning in cars back in 1950.

Manual transmissions or shuttle shifts are obsolete technologies in small tractors.

Even medium and heavy trucks are rapidly transitioning to automatics.
 
   / Well.......................this isn't good #20  
That's not my point Mr Finn.

As most tractor owners are cheap ********* like myself, when the electronics or even a simple device such as a solenoid craps out and the trans case has to be split for the repair and the part is NO LONGER AVAILABLE, who is going to want this piece of crap when the gear drive version still works just fine.

New vehicles have obsolescence designed in. For example Ford Motor Company doesn't keep key codes or electronic files for those key codes longer than 10 years. Don't think tractor manufacturers are any different.

Regards, Fred
 

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