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   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #31  
Ken4510,
The booster reel hoses came with the adjustable nozzles on each of the reels with 1.75" hoses.:thumbsup: All I need are the two rigid 4" 10 foot hoses (non collapseable) for the suctioning of water to fill the 1000 gallon tank. Mabybe later two 2.5" line hoses 50 to 100' to assist the booster lines. Unless we inherit one or two hoses.

Sounds good! Properly used, a booster line with do a lot of firefighting without using as much water as a bigger line.

If you ever get the suction hoses, you also need a strainer for the end so as not to clog up the pump intakes.

Ken
 
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#32  
Ken45101,

The strainers are there.:thumbsup:in both intakes. This unit is intact and ready for water. I'm looking forward for what we intend to use it for.

And to all who have commented. Thanks.

It will be a show case item at my sons' retirement party from the USMC - 22yrs - this coming 4th of July weekend. He's planning on lots of fire works and the fire apparatus will definitely be standing by.

Idaho2.
 
   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #33  
Well, first off...all I can say is WOW!!! You got a great deal for sure!!! Looks like it's in good condition. Amazing there is next to nothing broken. Now to the details...

Do you know what the gpm of the pump is? From the looks of the booster reels/nozzles, it might be a high pressure pump. They used to be popular in the old days. As far as I know they were multi-stage, so they could be used for either pressure or volume. Modern fire apparatus pumps are usually single stage and put out their rated volume at 150psi vs a lower volume at a much higher pressure with the older high-pressure fog style pumps. I do not think the booster reels are 1.75". I have never seen a 1 3/4" booster reel. Modern booster reels are 1" but some of the old ones were 3/4" which is probably what they are. They also look to be the high-pressure style like I mentioned above. As far as getting 2 1/2" hose I would go smaller. Trust me, you will not be able to handle a 2 1/2" line by yourself. I would either go with a 1" or 1 1/2" forestry hose. Any sort of new fire equipment is $$$, but if you have deep pockets, you can find just about everything you would want to use with that truck here: Complete Source for Firefighting Equipment Including Turnout Gear, Rescue Tools, Hazmat, Hose and More - eDarley.com It looks like the truck has two sirens. An electronic (more intune to an ambulance or police car siren) and a mechanical siren (sometimes called a "Q" siren, usually used only on fire apparatus). If you wanted to sell the mechanical siren, they are worth $$$. If it's in good condtion, you might be able to recoup the cost of the whole rig. I have a buddy who wanted to get a "Q" siren and the guy wanted $1,000 for the one he was looking at. Just a thought...

Now, I don't know if what I said makes any sense, but in any case, you are going to love your new red toy!!! :thumbsup:

Maybe you could post a video of it in operation once you get to your property...:D
 
   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #34  
Ken45101,

The strainers are there.:thumbsup:in both intakes.

Yes, there will be strainers in the intakes, but you'll also need them for the end of the hose. You won't all the debris to reach the intake.
 
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Taylortractornut,

I'm 1.75miles from the VFD and I will keep it ready during the fire season. Thanks for the Tote suggestion I can use ours as the resevoir - good idea. This unit is sound and will be an asset to the ranch.

Idaho2
 
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CompactTractorFan,

Good questions I'll get back to you, I know there is a RPM chart for the GPM flow next to the pump. I can regulate the governor from the front mount or in the cab.
This unit was custom built for this town in 1965 by Western States Fire Appartus, Inc. of Cornelius, OR.


Idaho2
 
   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #37  
As already commented, if you are drafting out of a lake or stream, you want strainers at the end of the intake line to keep from blocking the things up. The ones I remember had a couple of square feet of surface with quarter inch holes in it. The strainers at the truck are to protect the pump. (I've had them blocked up even on city water mains!)

It's been 25 years since I've been on the VFD but there was real high pressure (800 psi) booster lines that provided real "fog". I believe John Bean was the only company making them. They had a separate gear pump with "pump while in motion" ability. Those booster nozzles look like they could be that sort. If so, be very careful on straight stream, that pressure will go through a wall or through a hand very easily.

At least when I was in the service, all the main pumps were dual stage but only put out 150-170 psi or so max in pressure (series) mode, 100 psi in volume (parallel) mode. But I've never been around a truck with a front mount pump. As I recall, those were mainly on rural trucks where they had less water available and needed the midship space for more tank volume.

Yeah, that Q siren on the bumper is a real siren. Pulls around 225 amps after it gets wound up (not much different than a dead short.)

As I recall, for older equipment to remain in service and certified, it has to undergo an operational test running 24 hours at full rated capacity.

Ken
 
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#38  
Ken,

Here's what I copied off the Delivery & Pressure plate:
750 gals @ 150 Pounds @ 2250 RPM
525 gals @ 200 pounds @ 2420 RPM
375 gals @ 250 pounds @ 2640 RPM
750 gals @ 165 pounds @ 2330 RPM

The Siren is a Federal Sign & Signal from Blue Island, IL
Model Q2B, 12DC

The pump is Barton American Fire Pump
Type UA 75, Gear Ratio 1.92:1

IDAHO2
 
   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #39  
Super Cool...

I came close to owning an Antique Fire Truck once... a guy with a dude ranch bought it...
 
   / Went to my paying job and minding my own..... #40  
Ken,

Here's what I copied off the Delivery & Pressure plate:
750 gals @ 150 Pounds @ 2250 RPM
525 gals @ 200 pounds @ 2420 RPM
375 gals @ 250 pounds @ 2640 RPM
750 gals @ 165 pounds @ 2330 RPM

The Siren is a Federal Sign & Signal from Blue Island, IL
Model Q2B, 12DC

The pump is Barton American Fire Pump
Type UA 75, Gear Ratio 1.92:1

IDAHO2


750 gpm then it should take 4 1/2 hard sleeves.
If you have a pond set up a dry hydrant even if you dont have one check with the neighbors for pond access.

Put the sleeves on and cap the end of the last one (no strainer) pull a prime and see how fast it leaks down. This is one of the most important tests to see if you will be able to draft with it.

tom
 

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